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Full Title: Johns Hopkins University slashes 2,000 jobs after Trump administration grant cut > ... 247 domestic U.S. workers for the academic institution and

Full Title: Johns Hopkins University slashes 2,000 jobs after Trump administration grant cut > ... 247 domestic U.S. workers for the academic institution and another 1,975 positions outside the U.S. in 44 countries. > The job cuts impact the university's Bloomberg School of Public Health, its medical school and affiliated non-profit for international health, Jhpiego. While "John Hopkins U" gets the clicks, it sounds like this is mostly about a non-profit doing international public health stuff.

readthenotes1 2y ago
That's $400k a worker, or over $3M per worker in the US. Not sure that adds up...
- stevenbedrick 2y ago
  Presumably a lot of the funds in the terminated grants were for running programs that had other direct costs beyond pure headcount… That’s the thing that isn’t being reported well, IMHO: federal grants aren’t just gifts that the government gives universities, they are contracts for universities to perform services (conducting very specific research programs with well-specified deliverables, running very specific educational activities for carefully defined populations of learners, etc.).
- ta988 2y ago
  Indirect costs and non-payroll costs (equipment, travel, etc)
- Brybry 2y ago
  Grants/contracts aren't necessarily just for one year and often the numbers are about obligations and not outlays. I don't know which specific grants were cut but here's a random example[1] of one (which is probably(?) not involved). In this example it's over multiple decades with ~$253 obligated but (assuming site accuracy) only $53 million has been outlayed. It would be nice if media reporting included detailed information though. [1] https://www.usaspending.gov/award/ASST_NON_UM1AI068632_7529 https://www.usaspending.gov/award/ASST_NON_UM1AI068632_7529
- epistasis 2y ago
  Salaries are rarely the biggest expense in lab science and it's easy for a bench scientist to spend more on reagents in a day then they will make. Then there is all the very pricy equipment that is necessary, the cost of disposal of waste, the fume hoods and other extremely expensive real estate.... The overhead on a software is basically zero dollars but it's very different for science.

readthenotes1 2y ago

That's $400k a worker, or over $3M per worker in the US. Not sure that adds up...

stevenbedrick 2y ago
Presumably a lot of the funds in the terminated grants were for running programs that had other direct costs beyond pure headcount… That’s the thing that isn’t being reported well, IMHO: federal grants aren’t just gifts that the government gives universities, they are contracts for universities to perform services (conducting very specific research programs with well-specified deliverables, running very specific educational activities for carefully defined populations of learners, etc.).
ta988 2y ago
Indirect costs and non-payroll costs (equipment, travel, etc)
Brybry 2y ago
Grants/contracts aren't necessarily just for one year and often the numbers are about obligations and not outlays. I don't know which specific grants were cut but here's a random example[1] of one (which is probably(?) not involved). In this example it's over multiple decades with ~$253 obligated but (assuming site accuracy) only $53 million has been outlayed. It would be nice if media reporting included detailed information though. [1] https://www.usaspending.gov/award/ASST_NON_UM1AI068632_7529 https://www.usaspending.gov/award/ASST_NON_UM1AI068632_7529
epistasis 2y ago
Salaries are rarely the biggest expense in lab science and it's easy for a bench scientist to spend more on reagents in a day then they will make. Then there is all the very pricy equipment that is necessary, the cost of disposal of waste, the fume hoods and other extremely expensive real estate.... The overhead on a software is basically zero dollars but it's very different for science.