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I usually hold that the only sensible date ordering is yyyy-mm-dd So that files sort properly. I'm happy to see that this enabled pi day, whereas the Europea

I usually hold that the only sensible date ordering is yyyy-mm-dd So that files sort properly. I'm happy to see that this enabled pi day, whereas the Europeans would prefer it not exist.

Etheryte 2y ago
ISO 8601 is the standard date format in a number of European countries, but you do you.
- roelschroeven 2y ago
  It is? I've only ever seen dd/mm/yyyy or dd/mm/yy as standard date format, with different separators instead of / depending on the country.
  - dspillett 2y ago
    It isn't used on any official forms and such that I'm aware of, at least outside technical circles, but people don't tend to have a problem with YMD ordered formats when they are used.
    - Etheryte 2y ago
      Sweden used YYYY-MM-DD before ISO 8601 was even written, and many other countries use it too.
      - dspillett 2y ago
        I know at least some countries further East used it as a matter of course, but I wasn't aware any countries in/near Europe did.
  - johnisgood 2y ago
    YYYY-MM-DD+Z is pretty much the standard.
  - scbrg 2y ago
    It's used in Sweden, at least. Source: Me, having lived there most of my life. Second source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_Sweden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_Swed...
    - roelschroeven 2y ago
      Thanks, I didn't know that.
layer8 2y ago
File sorting normally isn’t determined by the date format used. You’re probably thinking of other contexts.
- behringer 2y ago
  Dates in the file names can be sorted by that date if you use the correct date format. This is common to do.
  - layer8 2y ago
    Right, I thought this was about locale formats and the equivalent of `ls -t`. It didn’t occur to me that the sensicality of using a lexicographic date format in file names might be under contention.
scythe 2y ago
The Europeans have 22/7, as long as they write dates with the slash.
- drsopp 2y ago
  It is common in Norway to also write 22.7.
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dspillett 2y ago
> yyyy-mm-dd > whereas the Europeans would prefer it not exist. I (a UKian) use YMD ordered formats everywhere possible and have done for many years, a few decades in fact, perhaps even before I know of ISO8601. I've seen more pushback about it from USians than us EUians, for no reason other than it isn't mm/dd/yyyy. In my experience most people outside technical circles on both sides of the big wet are unaware and just use their local legacy format, when EUians see yyyy-mm-dd (or the undecorated yyyymmdd) they tend to get it and accept it (though often keep using what they have always used), where some very vocal USians take a different format existing as a direct comment that their usual format is wrong and feel that as a personal slight rather than technical matter.

I usually hold that the only sensible date ordering is yyyy-mm-dd So that files sort properly. I'm happy to see that this enabled pi day, whereas the Europeans would prefer it not exist.

Etheryte 2y ago

ISO 8601 is the standard date format in a number of European countries, but you do you.

roelschroeven 2y ago
It is? I've only ever seen dd/mm/yyyy or dd/mm/yy as standard date format, with different separators instead of / depending on the country.
- dspillett 2y ago
  It isn't used on any official forms and such that I'm aware of, at least outside technical circles, but people don't tend to have a problem with YMD ordered formats when they are used.
  - Etheryte 2y ago
    Sweden used YYYY-MM-DD before ISO 8601 was even written, and many other countries use it too.
    - dspillett 2y ago
      I know at least some countries further East used it as a matter of course, but I wasn't aware any countries in/near Europe did.
- johnisgood 2y ago
  YYYY-MM-DD+Z is pretty much the standard.
- scbrg 2y ago
  It's used in Sweden, at least. Source: Me, having lived there most of my life. Second source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_Sweden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_Swed...
  - roelschroeven 2y ago
    Thanks, I didn't know that.

layer8 2y ago

File sorting normally isn’t determined by the date format used. You’re probably thinking of other contexts.

behringer 2y ago
Dates in the file names can be sorted by that date if you use the correct date format. This is common to do.
- layer8 2y ago
  Right, I thought this was about locale formats and the equivalent of `ls -t`. It didn’t occur to me that the sensicality of using a lexicographic date format in file names might be under contention.

scythe 2y ago

The Europeans have 22/7, as long as they write dates with the slash.

drsopp 2y ago
It is common in Norway to also write 22.7.

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dspillett 2y ago

> yyyy-mm-dd > whereas the Europeans would prefer it not exist. I (a UKian) use YMD ordered formats everywhere possible and have done for many years, a few decades in fact, perhaps even before I know of ISO8601. I've seen more pushback about it from USians than us EUians, for no reason other than it isn't mm/dd/yyyy. In my experience most people outside technical circles on both sides of the big wet are unaware and just use their local legacy format, when EUians see yyyy-mm-dd (or the undecorated yyyymmdd) they tend to get it and accept it (though often keep using what they have always used), where some very vocal USians take a different format existing as a direct comment that their usual format is wrong and feel that as a personal slight rather than technical matter.