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Interestingly, it is not the case in the modern era. Cooperation is very effective. Take New Zealand as an example: when the Moriori were beaten by the Maori th
by renewiltord 2y ago
Interestingly, it is not the case in the modern era. Cooperation is very effective. Take New Zealand as an example: when the Moriori were beaten by the Maori the latter ate them. When the Maori were beaten hollow by the British, they just incorporated them. At least for a century the Borg wins over the Klingons. But we don't know what the future will hold.
- mmooss 2y ago> When the Maori were beaten hollow by the British, they just incorporated them. I thought the way the Brits treated the Maori wasn't entirely positive?
- renewiltord 2y agoBut they didn't eat them. And they gave them room in the government.
- mmooss 2y ago> But they didn't eat them. Our standards are getting a bit too low.
- renewiltord 2y agoWell, it’s us or the other guys. And the other guys’ standards are that they’re gonna eat you.
- mmooss 2y agoNo, we could do better and not kill the other guys.
- renewiltord 2y agoWe did. That's why they're in the government and the guys they ate are poop in the ground. But one day if they get power over us they'll eat us. Because they still ritually demonstrate the eating.
- mmooss 2y agoIf you think that's crazy, you should read what's in the Bible. For example, the origin of Abrahamic religions is a guy who was willing to sacrifice his own child. What is in ritual isn't literal.
- renewiltord 2y agoYeah but the Māori did eat the Moriori around the time we were freeing slaves. I guess some find Nazi salutes acceptable since it doesn’t literally mean “genocide people with gas” but rituals have meaning to others. I think if my ancestors ate people then I wouldn’t be celebrating that every day. But who knows, maybe you’re cool with the Nazi salute.
- mmooss 2y agoYou know the difference, and probably could articulate it if you thought about it. Why poison a good human interaction and drive someone away? You don't need to treat others like that.
- renewiltord 2y agoGo ahead and articulate the difference between celebrating genocide by eating someone and celebrating genocide by gassing someone that makes one acceptable. I’m curious to see it. I think what’s happened here is you’ve picked a priori an in-group and out-group and you think in-group references to violence are palatable and out-group references to violence are unpalatable. Or perhaps it’s a timing thing. When the Nazis are as historical as the Māoris are today, the salute will once-again become acceptable.