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I dunno… a job where I travel and walk outside and loyal customers sticking with me until I was ready to retire sounds pretty nice to me

entropicdrifter 2y ago
Nobody said you had to retire. If you want to work until your 80s, have at it. Just don't support a society where it's a necessity
- dwighttk 2y ago
  Necessity was merely postulated by original poster
  - daveguy 2y ago
    Necessity was a fact in the early 1900s. So necessary people had their kids work for extra income. Did you never study history?
bloomingeek 2y ago
Done! I curse you to have to work until you are in your eighties. May your sore joints and muscles, sub-par wages (part of the deal, you chose it!) and failing eyesight and hearing be a constant companion. If you're a man, don't forget your prostate, If a woman, change of life issues and being a second class citizens in most countries of the world.
- dwighttk 2y ago
  Don’t threaten me with a good time
- AStonesThrow 2y ago
  A man can forget his prostate, but can a prostate ever forget its man?
danans 2y ago
Sure, it's nice to have a job like that if you get paid a living wage, have a social safety net, secure housing, and no dependents. I have news for you: that job (and situation) didn't exist then, and doesn't exist now. It briefly existed in the few decades following WW2, but we have torn down much of the ideology and social infrastructure that made that possible.
- cjbgkagh 2y ago
  Even if such promises were made and indeed kept for some people at no point that I am aware of was the situation ever long term stable. AFAIK Soviet Union guaranteed dignity in retirement and planned to not have to pay for it through achieving a post-monetary society. The US made similar guarantees and planed to out-grow the costs (i.e. ponzi scheme).
  - danans 2y ago
    > The US made similar guarantees and planed to out-grow the costs (i.e. ponzi scheme). If you're referring to Social Security in the US, it's no more a Ponzi scheme than your home mortgage payment is a Ponzi scheme. In reality it's a progressive tax scheme to prevent senior citizen poverty. To make Social Security solvent, lift the cap on Social Security taxes. Will the working and middle classes benefit more than the wealthy who will pay more in those taxes? Yes, and progressive taxation to prevent abject impoverishment of working and middle class seniors is a good thing.
    - cjbgkagh 2y ago
      The US would still need to outgrow its other problems if the US in general is to remain solvent. I am pretty doubtful that it can.
      - alabastervlog 2y ago
        Yeah, the two rounds of huge tax cuts since our last semi-balanced budget really screwed us. As they were predicted to.
HWR_14 2y ago
Except the part where you cannot save enough to retire and you don't have the income to support your current lifestyle
throw0101d 2y ago
> I dunno… a job where I travel and walk outside and loyal customers sticking with me until I was ready to retire sounds pretty nice to me It's nice if the job is done by choice rather than by necessity. If it's a matter of "work or starve", your outlook on your situation may not be as positive.

entropicdrifter 2y ago

Nobody said you had to retire. If you want to work until your 80s, have at it. Just don't support a society where it's a necessity

dwighttk 2y ago
Necessity was merely postulated by original poster
- daveguy 2y ago
  Necessity was a fact in the early 1900s. So necessary people had their kids work for extra income. Did you never study history?

bloomingeek 2y ago

Done! I curse you to have to work until you are in your eighties. May your sore joints and muscles, sub-par wages (part of the deal, you chose it!) and failing eyesight and hearing be a constant companion. If you're a man, don't forget your prostate, If a woman, change of life issues and being a second class citizens in most countries of the world.

dwighttk 2y ago
Don’t threaten me with a good time
AStonesThrow 2y ago
A man can forget his prostate, but can a prostate ever forget its man?

danans 2y ago

Sure, it's nice to have a job like that if you get paid a living wage, have a social safety net, secure housing, and no dependents. I have news for you: that job (and situation) didn't exist then, and doesn't exist now. It briefly existed in the few decades following WW2, but we have torn down much of the ideology and social infrastructure that made that possible.

cjbgkagh 2y ago
Even if such promises were made and indeed kept for some people at no point that I am aware of was the situation ever long term stable. AFAIK Soviet Union guaranteed dignity in retirement and planned to not have to pay for it through achieving a post-monetary society. The US made similar guarantees and planed to out-grow the costs (i.e. ponzi scheme).
- danans 2y ago
  > The US made similar guarantees and planed to out-grow the costs (i.e. ponzi scheme). If you're referring to Social Security in the US, it's no more a Ponzi scheme than your home mortgage payment is a Ponzi scheme. In reality it's a progressive tax scheme to prevent senior citizen poverty. To make Social Security solvent, lift the cap on Social Security taxes. Will the working and middle classes benefit more than the wealthy who will pay more in those taxes? Yes, and progressive taxation to prevent abject impoverishment of working and middle class seniors is a good thing.
  - cjbgkagh 2y ago
    The US would still need to outgrow its other problems if the US in general is to remain solvent. I am pretty doubtful that it can.
    - alabastervlog 2y ago
      Yeah, the two rounds of huge tax cuts since our last semi-balanced budget really screwed us. As they were predicted to.

HWR_14 2y ago

Except the part where you cannot save enough to retire and you don't have the income to support your current lifestyle

throw0101d 2y ago

> I dunno… a job where I travel and walk outside and loyal customers sticking with me until I was ready to retire sounds pretty nice to me It's nice if the job is done by choice rather than by necessity. If it's a matter of "work or starve", your outlook on your situation may not be as positive.