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it is very very clear, that the atheletes were custom fitted into the altered squirl suits, and trained specificaly and extensivly in there optimal use. tradit

it is very very clear, that the atheletes were custom fitted into the altered squirl suits, and trained specificaly and extensivly in there optimal use. traditional ski jumps were done with the legs fully closed, with a last second switch to a landing posture.... attempts to salvage "reputations" are extra cringy. Time for the boys to step up, fess up, scuff there feet, say they are sorry, take there lumps, and then do there damdest to win fair and square, next time. The label reads "amature sports" and any plausible adherance to that, would outright ban anything, that was not built for use by amatures in full compliance with thr rules, flat out prohibit any corporate, or thinktank or fancy university "assistance", including the consumption of anything other than food, with full disclosure of all, substances injected, prescribed, injested. We do have the complete technical ability to quickly, and cheaply ,do a total forensic examination of every athletic competitor, and eliminate cheating. Sport, like science, is digging it's own grave, with "reputational management"

DeepSeaTortoise 2y ago
? > it is very very clear, that the atheletes were custom fitted into the altered squirl suits Aren't the suits tested for compliance on the athlete? > trained specificaly and extensivly in there optimal use. traditional ski jumps were done with the legs fully closed, with a last second switch to a landing posture I honestly don't see this. I've looked at quite a few videos now, comparing the techniques between other jumpers and their medal winning jump. It looks close enough to me and, honestly, plenty of experts, too, otherwise they would have pointed to the difference in techniques enabled by the altered suits, rather than only having to rely on finding alterations after taking the suit apart.
- wafflemaker 2y ago
  >Aren't the suits tested for compliance on the athlete? That's half of the drama: suits have RFID chips identifying them. After the suits have been tested (as this sort of shenanigans is pretty common in this sport), they resew the chips from verified suits onto the tricksuits. This was caught on the video.
  - metalman 2y ago
    ha! so there is a whole other problem with, fake chips, and other fake stuff, and one of the ways to make a tamper proof, impossible to fake security tag, is to paint it with a "special" paint, full of spakles and micro blobs, resulting in a perfectly random one of a kind spray on label that is impossible to remove, can be done at any scale,and that is scanned, and given a serial #. so do the chip, do the suit, shoes, whatever needs to be secured, and released.Any company complisit in assisting cheating, would be given a permanent ban, along with all principals and those directly involved. And since people are going to jail, for cheating in video games, then perhaps life sentences are apropriate as well.
gus_massa 2y ago
Sorry that I don't understand the problem with the altered suits. Exaggerating the changes, if the suits are not the official suits, they may get more distance with an improvised version of a wingsuit[1]? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingsuit_flying https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingsuit_flying

DeepSeaTortoise 2y ago

? > it is very very clear, that the atheletes were custom fitted into the altered squirl suits Aren't the suits tested for compliance on the athlete? > trained specificaly and extensivly in there optimal use. traditional ski jumps were done with the legs fully closed, with a last second switch to a landing posture I honestly don't see this. I've looked at quite a few videos now, comparing the techniques between other jumpers and their medal winning jump. It looks close enough to me and, honestly, plenty of experts, too, otherwise they would have pointed to the difference in techniques enabled by the altered suits, rather than only having to rely on finding alterations after taking the suit apart.

wafflemaker 2y ago
>Aren't the suits tested for compliance on the athlete? That's half of the drama: suits have RFID chips identifying them. After the suits have been tested (as this sort of shenanigans is pretty common in this sport), they resew the chips from verified suits onto the tricksuits. This was caught on the video.
- metalman 2y ago
  ha! so there is a whole other problem with, fake chips, and other fake stuff, and one of the ways to make a tamper proof, impossible to fake security tag, is to paint it with a "special" paint, full of spakles and micro blobs, resulting in a perfectly random one of a kind spray on label that is impossible to remove, can be done at any scale,and that is scanned, and given a serial #. so do the chip, do the suit, shoes, whatever needs to be secured, and released.Any company complisit in assisting cheating, would be given a permanent ban, along with all principals and those directly involved. And since people are going to jail, for cheating in video games, then perhaps life sentences are apropriate as well.

gus_massa 2y ago

Sorry that I don't understand the problem with the altered suits. Exaggerating the changes, if the suits are not the official suits, they may get more distance with an improvised version of a wingsuit[1]? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingsuit_flying https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wingsuit_flying