The issue here is not really that someone is "disagreable". It is actual real world harm that goes on. > You seem to be boxing with phantoms. Not really. I am

The issue here is not really that someone is "disagreable". It is actual real world harm that goes on. > You seem to be boxing with phantoms. Not really. I am just listening to what the people we talk about say or do. You want me to pretend their motivations and ideologies are something they simply are not.