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Collins and Cambridge don't know about it (despite Cambridge having one of the best and largest corpus of spoken and written English). Thefreedictionary I don't

by bmacho 2y ago

Collins and Cambridge don't know about it (despite Cambridge having one of the best and largest corpus of spoken and written English). Thefreedictionary I don't accept as reliable. Seems like this proves my point tbh.

smcin 2y ago
GP post cites Collins defining "fix a gaze on"! https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fix-a-gaze-on https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fix-a-g... Yes Collins knows about it. Even this lesser-known site knows about it: https://texttospeech.io/thesaurus/gaze https://texttospeech.io/thesaurus/gaze > Definition of gaze: (n): a long fixed look; "he fixed his paternal gaze on me"
- bmacho 2y ago
  We are talking about 'fixing smth with a gaze' and not 'fixing gaze on smth'. The verb, the object and the subject are different.
  - afandian 2y ago
    A dictionary doesn’t capture the entire language. In this thread there are native speakers saying that this is a well formed, meaningful English sentence. Therefore it is.
    - bmacho 2y ago
      Are there? Where? Point at one? Two?
      - afandian 2y ago
        https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43351605 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43351605 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43351500 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43351500 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43351604 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43351604
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        bmacho 2y ago
        Sure, you and the other guy, claiming London in his bio (we don't know if he's a native speaker or not). It might be a regional dialect, which is also a form of broken English, especially if it is very obscure and other English speakers can't even guess the meaning of the idiom out of context.
        afandian 2y ago
        I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve here. If you're trying to understand the original article I think you have enough information. If you want to expand your understanding of English then you have some leads to follow and an opportunity to learn. If you don't believe them that's your choice, but it's not evidence to the contrary. If you're trying to gate-keep and prescribe someone else's language, then you should at least respect if others don't want to join your argument. (EDIT - Here's a past exam paper published by Cambridge that references such a phrase on page 16 https://pastpapers.co/cie/O-Level/English-Language-1123/2019-Oct-Nov/1123_w19_ms_21.pdf https://pastpapers.co/cie/O-Level/English-Language-1123/2019... )
        bmacho 2y ago
        I don't try to accomplish here anything. I expressed my opinion that I don't think that particular phrase is poetic, it is just broken without being poetic. Then people tried to prove that it is indeed an existing English idiom, which is usually very easy, they are in the dictionaries, in the books, in the articles, on the internet. Then they failed during this process, which made me more confident in my opinion. > https://pastpapers.co/cie/O-Level/English-Language-1123/2019-Oct-Nov/1123_w19_ms_21.pdf https://pastpapers.co/cie/O-Level/English-Language-1123/2019... Okay, I can accept this.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
    But it does use the word "fix" in the sense of "fasten upon, stop moving, make immobile" like a "fixed point" and not in the sense of "repair" or "make breakfast", And does so in relation to "gaze" in the same sentence. How much more do you need - the rest seems nit-picking. Sentences aren't all fixed forms, they are creative combinations of words. (and as has been established, this form is not actually unique) If you don't want to engage with the piece, then maybe it's not for you. Not everything is written for everyone, and it's useless to complain about that.
gdds 2y ago
(part 1/3) Let's put this to bed once and for all. The sentence under discussion is: > A woman in her forties sits on a bench, fixing the shrine with her gaze. The construction in this sentence is perfectly standard in both British and American English, documented by reputable dictionaries, and in common usage across contexts from tabloids and young adult fantasy to newspapers of record and literary fiction. Dictionaries: Several commenters have posted dictionary entries for related but distinct constructions like "fix a gaze on." Here are entries supporting the exact construction under discussion. 1. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fix-with https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fix-with 2. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fix%20(someone)%20with https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fix%20(someone)%2... 3. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fix https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fix, definition 9: "If you fix someone with a particular kind of expression, you look at them in that way." - "He took her hand and fixed her with a look of deep concern. [VERB noun with noun]" - "He fixed me with a lopsided grin. [VERB noun with noun]" examples from other Collins entries: - "The man fixed his interrogator with a steady gaze and spoke quietly but firmly." (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/sentences/english/gaze https://www.collinsdictionary.com/sentences/english/gaze) - "He pulls his other hand towards his face and fixes me with an intense gaze that has been well practised." (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/intense-gaze https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/inte...) 4. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fix#Verb https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fix#Verb, definition 1.1: "(Of a piercing look) to direct at someone." (note that definition 1, but not 1.1, is marked as obsolete) - "He fixed me with a sickly grin, and said, 'I told you it wouldn't work!'" - "She sniffed, too, comprehendingly, and fixed her son with a relentless eye." 5. https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/fix_1 https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/englis..., idioms: "fix somebody with a look, stare, gaze, etc.: to look directly at somebody for a long time" - "He fixed her with an angry stare." 6. Examples from other dictionaries exhibiting the construction: - "To glare is to fix another with a hard, piercing stare" (https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=gaze https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=gaze) - "Aron Nimzowitsch, a contemporary of Alekhine’s, would smoke a noxious cigar and fix his opponent with a dread stare." (https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nimzowitsch https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nimzowitsch)
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by bmacho 2y ago

smcin 2y ago

GP post cites Collins defining "fix a gaze on"! https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fix-a-gaze-on https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fix-a-g... Yes Collins knows about it. Even this lesser-known site knows about it: https://texttospeech.io/thesaurus/gaze https://texttospeech.io/thesaurus/gaze > Definition of gaze: (n): a long fixed look; "he fixed his paternal gaze on me"

bmacho 2y ago
We are talking about 'fixing smth with a gaze' and not 'fixing gaze on smth'. The verb, the object and the subject are different.
- afandian 2y ago
  A dictionary doesn’t capture the entire language. In this thread there are native speakers saying that this is a well formed, meaningful English sentence. Therefore it is.
  - bmacho 2y ago
    Are there? Where? Point at one? Two?
    - afandian 2y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43351605 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43351605 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43351500 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43351500 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43351604 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43351604
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      - bmacho 2y ago
        Sure, you and the other guy, claiming London in his bio (we don't know if he's a native speaker or not). It might be a regional dialect, which is also a form of broken English, especially if it is very obscure and other English speakers can't even guess the meaning of the idiom out of context.
        afandian 2y ago
        I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve here. If you're trying to understand the original article I think you have enough information. If you want to expand your understanding of English then you have some leads to follow and an opportunity to learn. If you don't believe them that's your choice, but it's not evidence to the contrary. If you're trying to gate-keep and prescribe someone else's language, then you should at least respect if others don't want to join your argument. (EDIT - Here's a past exam paper published by Cambridge that references such a phrase on page 16 https://pastpapers.co/cie/O-Level/English-Language-1123/2019-Oct-Nov/1123_w19_ms_21.pdf https://pastpapers.co/cie/O-Level/English-Language-1123/2019... )
        bmacho 2y ago
        I don't try to accomplish here anything. I expressed my opinion that I don't think that particular phrase is poetic, it is just broken without being poetic. Then people tried to prove that it is indeed an existing English idiom, which is usually very easy, they are in the dictionaries, in the books, in the articles, on the internet. Then they failed during this process, which made me more confident in my opinion. > https://pastpapers.co/cie/O-Level/English-Language-1123/2019-Oct-Nov/1123_w19_ms_21.pdf https://pastpapers.co/cie/O-Level/English-Language-1123/2019... Okay, I can accept this.
- SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
  But it does use the word "fix" in the sense of "fasten upon, stop moving, make immobile" like a "fixed point" and not in the sense of "repair" or "make breakfast", And does so in relation to "gaze" in the same sentence. How much more do you need - the rest seems nit-picking. Sentences aren't all fixed forms, they are creative combinations of words. (and as has been established, this form is not actually unique) If you don't want to engage with the piece, then maybe it's not for you. Not everything is written for everyone, and it's useless to complain about that.

gdds 2y ago

(part 1/3) Let's put this to bed once and for all. The sentence under discussion is: > A woman in her forties sits on a bench, fixing the shrine with her gaze. The construction in this sentence is perfectly standard in both British and American English, documented by reputable dictionaries, and in common usage across contexts from tabloids and young adult fantasy to newspapers of record and literary fiction. Dictionaries: Several commenters have posted dictionary entries for related but distinct constructions like "fix a gaze on." Here are entries supporting the exact construction under discussion. 1. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fix-with https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fix-with 2. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fix%20(someone)%20with https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fix%20(someone)%2... 3. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fix https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fix, definition 9: "If you fix someone with a particular kind of expression, you look at them in that way." - "He took her hand and fixed her with a look of deep concern. [VERB noun with noun]" - "He fixed me with a lopsided grin. [VERB noun with noun]" examples from other Collins entries: - "The man fixed his interrogator with a steady gaze and spoke quietly but firmly." (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/sentences/english/gaze https://www.collinsdictionary.com/sentences/english/gaze) - "He pulls his other hand towards his face and fixes me with an intense gaze that has been well practised." (https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/intense-gaze https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/inte...) 4. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fix#Verb https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fix#Verb, definition 1.1: "(Of a piercing look) to direct at someone." (note that definition 1, but not 1.1, is marked as obsolete) - "He fixed me with a sickly grin, and said, 'I told you it wouldn't work!'" - "She sniffed, too, comprehendingly, and fixed her son with a relentless eye." 5. https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/fix_1 https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/englis..., idioms: "fix somebody with a look, stare, gaze, etc.: to look directly at somebody for a long time" - "He fixed her with an angry stare." 6. Examples from other dictionaries exhibiting the construction: - "To glare is to fix another with a hard, piercing stare" (https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=gaze https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=gaze) - "Aron Nimzowitsch, a contemporary of Alekhine’s, would smoke a noxious cigar and fix his opponent with a dread stare." (https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nimzowitsch https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nimzowitsch)

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