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What meaning do you infer from what it says?

by dambi0 2y ago

marky1991 2y ago
I legitimately would have to guess what they meant. The obvious reading to me is that she is magically repairing it by looking at it, though I would know that's not what they meant, which leaves brute force guessing. You can say that someone is 'fixed on' something, which means to look doggedly, but 'fixing something' is totally different, who says that? Subjective of course, but I just think it's a bad sentence.
- 0xEF 2y ago
  > who says that? People who watch US TV shows about the American South. Having lived there for awhile and still travel there for work today, I can say with some certainty that the folksy dialect that media gives to people of that region is either largely embellished or made-up. If we stay on the word "fix," I mostly hear it in context of someone making a meal ("Fixing breakfast," etc). The Appalachian regions are must more creative and cant-like with the language historically, but even that is being lost as the generations are exposed to more modern settings, I think. In my experience, the idioms used usually come down to the individual, which has more to do with how their sense of identity was cultivated, a concept that runs quite deep in the American South, but that is a much longer and more complex thread for another day, I reckon.
  - marky1991 2y ago
    "("Fixing breakfast," etc)." Yes, this makes sense, you can fix ('make', off the top of my head, only used in this sense for cooking really) breakfast, but surely the author doesn't mean the woman was materializing/cooking a shrine as a dish with her eyes either.
    - genghisjahn 2y ago
      In Texas we’d say things like “I’m fixing to go over yonder.” Meaning “I’m about to go over there.”
    - mock-possum 2y ago
      No, it’s “fix” in the sense of “fix in place” - to pin something to one spot. “I can’t move the table, it’s fixed in place.” Her gaze is fixed upon - her gaze is fixing. Within her field of view, her deliberate staring at the shrine has fixed it in place. Her eyes are fixed in place, focused on the shrine. ‘In place’ is implied by the context.
- Someone 2y ago
  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fix https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fix: to direct one's attention or efforts : FOCUS also : DECIDE, SETTLE —usually used with on had fixed on the first Saturday in June All eyes fixed on her as she entered the room.
  - marky1991 2y ago
    Yes, exactly: 'Fixed ON', the eyes are "fixed", it's completely different grammar.
    - Someone 2y ago
      The example uses on, but the entry says usually used with on. That leaves open images that do not use on.
- SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
  > Subjective of course, but I just think it's a bad sentence. IDK, you could just look up the idiom that you are unfamiliar with? So that next time you come across it, you are better informed. https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/fix+his+with+a+gaze https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/fix+his+with+a+gaze https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fix-a-gaze-on https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fix-a-g...
  - bmacho 2y ago
    Collins is a counterpoint, right? Well it is, as it doesn't know this phrase. Thefreedictionary I don't now what that is. I'd be much more convinced if it cited examples from actual usage from books, articles, subtitles. Looks more machine generated to me than human work.
    - SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
      If you want cites google "fix him with your gaze" or "fix it with your gaze" - including the quotes.
      - deleted 2y ago
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      - bmacho 2y ago
        It has ~3 results. 1 talks about making something immovable with your gaze with a spell in a fantasy setting. The other 2 are in blogspam articles of German companies, one of them is also available in several other languages, presumably machine translated.
        SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
        There are hits for other permutations such as ""fix them with your gaze", "fix me with your gaze", "fix her with your gaze" etc. If you're claiming that this is "wrong" then I think that's disproven. I don't even know what the point of that exercise would be. Just finally accept it as an opportunity to learn a new turn of phrase. You don't have to even use it, just accept that others do. IDK what the gatekeeping is about. If you still feel the need, then IDK, write a strongly worded letter about it to the editor of The Critic? It says "Britain's Most Civilised Magazine" on the home page. Have at it, present your credentials, see if you get anywhere. Or if you don't want to engage with the piece on its own terms, then maybe it's not for you. Not everything is written for everyone, and it's useless to complain about that.
- noduerme 2y ago
  Fixing one's gaze on something is a standard English expression, it's just the active form of to be fixed on, which is passive. It means, literally, that one's line of sight is 'fixed upon' something. One's mind can also be fixed upon something. The verb is to fix or to affix. 'Fixed to' simply means 'attached to', but 'fixed on' usually implies something lighter attached to a weightier, possibly vertical surface, or something attached by glue or paste. You can also say that a postage stamp is fixed on an envelope. It's a great sentence if you understand the different things it is communicating compactly and efficiently.
  - marky1991 2y ago
    "fix one's gaze on" is not the construction used in the article.
Galatians4_16 2y ago
Depends on the correct spelling of gaze.
bmacho 2y ago
What it means. The most annoying about that quote is that it is a correct sentence, with one single trivial meaning. Easy right? Your favorite type of sentence. Well guess what, in the text it stands for a totally different thing (without any particular reason or benefit). I much prefer GP's broken sentence. It is syntactically broken, but it has all the words, much better than if it was syntactically correct with an entirely different meaning than the intended one.

What meaning do you infer from what it says?

by dambi0 2y ago

What meaning do you infer from what it says?

marky1991 2y ago

I legitimately would have to guess what they meant. The obvious reading to me is that she is magically repairing it by looking at it, though I would know that's not what they meant, which leaves brute force guessing. You can say that someone is 'fixed on' something, which means to look doggedly, but 'fixing something' is totally different, who says that? Subjective of course, but I just think it's a bad sentence.

0xEF 2y ago
> who says that? People who watch US TV shows about the American South. Having lived there for awhile and still travel there for work today, I can say with some certainty that the folksy dialect that media gives to people of that region is either largely embellished or made-up. If we stay on the word "fix," I mostly hear it in context of someone making a meal ("Fixing breakfast," etc). The Appalachian regions are must more creative and cant-like with the language historically, but even that is being lost as the generations are exposed to more modern settings, I think. In my experience, the idioms used usually come down to the individual, which has more to do with how their sense of identity was cultivated, a concept that runs quite deep in the American South, but that is a much longer and more complex thread for another day, I reckon.
- marky1991 2y ago
  "("Fixing breakfast," etc)." Yes, this makes sense, you can fix ('make', off the top of my head, only used in this sense for cooking really) breakfast, but surely the author doesn't mean the woman was materializing/cooking a shrine as a dish with her eyes either.
  - genghisjahn 2y ago
    In Texas we’d say things like “I’m fixing to go over yonder.” Meaning “I’m about to go over there.”
  - mock-possum 2y ago
    No, it’s “fix” in the sense of “fix in place” - to pin something to one spot. “I can’t move the table, it’s fixed in place.” Her gaze is fixed upon - her gaze is fixing. Within her field of view, her deliberate staring at the shrine has fixed it in place. Her eyes are fixed in place, focused on the shrine. ‘In place’ is implied by the context.
Someone 2y ago
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fix https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fix: to direct one's attention or efforts : FOCUS also : DECIDE, SETTLE —usually used with on had fixed on the first Saturday in June All eyes fixed on her as she entered the room.
- marky1991 2y ago
  Yes, exactly: 'Fixed ON', the eyes are "fixed", it's completely different grammar.
  - Someone 2y ago
    The example uses on, but the entry says usually used with on. That leaves open images that do not use on.
SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
> Subjective of course, but I just think it's a bad sentence. IDK, you could just look up the idiom that you are unfamiliar with? So that next time you come across it, you are better informed. https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/fix+his+with+a+gaze https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/fix+his+with+a+gaze https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fix-a-gaze-on https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fix-a-g...
- bmacho 2y ago
  Collins is a counterpoint, right? Well it is, as it doesn't know this phrase. Thefreedictionary I don't now what that is. I'd be much more convinced if it cited examples from actual usage from books, articles, subtitles. Looks more machine generated to me than human work.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
    If you want cites google "fix him with your gaze" or "fix it with your gaze" - including the quotes.
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
    - bmacho 2y ago
      It has ~3 results. 1 talks about making something immovable with your gaze with a spell in a fantasy setting. The other 2 are in blogspam articles of German companies, one of them is also available in several other languages, presumably machine translated.
      - SideburnsOfDoom 2y ago
        There are hits for other permutations such as ""fix them with your gaze", "fix me with your gaze", "fix her with your gaze" etc. If you're claiming that this is "wrong" then I think that's disproven. I don't even know what the point of that exercise would be. Just finally accept it as an opportunity to learn a new turn of phrase. You don't have to even use it, just accept that others do. IDK what the gatekeeping is about. If you still feel the need, then IDK, write a strongly worded letter about it to the editor of The Critic? It says "Britain's Most Civilised Magazine" on the home page. Have at it, present your credentials, see if you get anywhere. Or if you don't want to engage with the piece on its own terms, then maybe it's not for you. Not everything is written for everyone, and it's useless to complain about that.
noduerme 2y ago
Fixing one's gaze on something is a standard English expression, it's just the active form of to be fixed on, which is passive. It means, literally, that one's line of sight is 'fixed upon' something. One's mind can also be fixed upon something. The verb is to fix or to affix. 'Fixed to' simply means 'attached to', but 'fixed on' usually implies something lighter attached to a weightier, possibly vertical surface, or something attached by glue or paste. You can also say that a postage stamp is fixed on an envelope. It's a great sentence if you understand the different things it is communicating compactly and efficiently.
- marky1991 2y ago
  "fix one's gaze on" is not the construction used in the article.

Galatians4_16 2y ago

Depends on the correct spelling of gaze.

bmacho 2y ago

What it means. The most annoying about that quote is that it is a correct sentence, with one single trivial meaning. Easy right? Your favorite type of sentence. Well guess what, in the text it stands for a totally different thing (without any particular reason or benefit). I much prefer GP's broken sentence. It is syntactically broken, but it has all the words, much better than if it was syntactically correct with an entirely different meaning than the intended one.