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I use Brave and am satisfied with it. The occasional hassle involved in turning things off when a new unwanted feature shows up or when I have to install it on

by qwerpy 2y ago

I use Brave and am satisfied with it. The occasional hassle involved in turning things off when a new unwanted feature shows up or when I have to install it on a new machine is worth it for uBlock Origin and the Chromium performance and compatibility. However the theoretical downside of Brave is that as Google continues changing Chromium's codebase, there's incentive for them to make it harder and harder to maintain a manifest v2-enabled fork. Wouldn't be surprised if extensive refactors randomly happen that multiply the effort needed to merge changes from upstream while maintaining the v2 capability. And how motivated is Brave to do all this labor? At some point they're going to say the tax is too high, we have a nice built-in ad blocker anyway, just use that. A well-maintained, funded, and focused Firefox would be a good thing for when that day comes.

porridgeraisin 2y ago
Brave does not need manifest v2 for it's ad blocker to work. It is not implemented as an extension. It is built into the browser itself.
- qwerpy 2y ago
  Right but in my non-scientific test I found uBlock to work better so I don’t use the Brave blocker. My prediction is that Brave will eventually say that it’s too costly to maintain v2 in their fork and that people should just use the Brave blocker.
  - porridgeraisin 2y ago
    Interesting. What are you noticing? I might run ublock on top as well if it's worth it.
    - mastazi 2y ago
      Brave has built-in functionality that can replace uBO, but it doesn't replace all of the other Manifestv2-only extensions that are not necessarily adblockers. For example https://libredirect.github.io/faq.html#chrome_web_store https://libredirect.github.io/faq.html#chrome_web_store > We can't publish LibRedirect to the Chrome Web Store as it requires Manifest v3, which removed essential features that LibRedirect needs. uBlock Origin is just the tip of the iceberg since it's the most popular one, there is an entire ecosystem of Mv2 extensions that can never be replaced by Brave's built in functionality
      - porridgeraisin 2y ago
        My parent poster and I mentioned specifically ublock origin features
  - notpushkin 2y ago
    I’m wondering why Chrome forks don’t just maintain a shared patch enabling MV2. That said, uBlock Origin works best on Firefox: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
- lordofgibbons 2y ago
  Does the default Brave ad blocker block Youtube ads?
  - porridgeraisin 2y ago
    Yes. You can have all the usual ublock origin behaviour custom filter lists and all that, about:adblock

by qwerpy 2y ago

porridgeraisin 2y ago

Brave does not need manifest v2 for it's ad blocker to work. It is not implemented as an extension. It is built into the browser itself.

qwerpy 2y ago
Right but in my non-scientific test I found uBlock to work better so I don’t use the Brave blocker. My prediction is that Brave will eventually say that it’s too costly to maintain v2 in their fork and that people should just use the Brave blocker.
- porridgeraisin 2y ago
  Interesting. What are you noticing? I might run ublock on top as well if it's worth it.
  - mastazi 2y ago
    Brave has built-in functionality that can replace uBO, but it doesn't replace all of the other Manifestv2-only extensions that are not necessarily adblockers. For example https://libredirect.github.io/faq.html#chrome_web_store https://libredirect.github.io/faq.html#chrome_web_store > We can't publish LibRedirect to the Chrome Web Store as it requires Manifest v3, which removed essential features that LibRedirect needs. uBlock Origin is just the tip of the iceberg since it's the most popular one, there is an entire ecosystem of Mv2 extensions that can never be replaced by Brave's built in functionality
    - porridgeraisin 2y ago
      My parent poster and I mentioned specifically ublock origin features
- notpushkin 2y ago
  I’m wondering why Chrome forks don’t just maintain a shared patch enabling MV2. That said, uBlock Origin works best on Firefox: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-b...
lordofgibbons 2y ago
Does the default Brave ad blocker block Youtube ads?
- porridgeraisin 2y ago
  Yes. You can have all the usual ublock origin behaviour custom filter lists and all that, about:adblock