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Of course javascript is crap... ...however, this is also true of every other part of web programming: HTML and CSS are similarly a mixture of academic navel ga

by drcode 14y ago

Of course javascript is crap... ...however, this is also true of every other part of web programming: HTML and CSS are similarly a mixture of academic navel gazing nonsense and ugly cludges designed by committee. The fact is that HTML5 is still really only version 0.1 of where web programming should be- But this doesn't mean it isn't improving. The fact is that having portable code snippets that can execute within a website is extremely powerful and right now javascript is essentially the only way to accomplish this. You don't have to love javascript to love what it allows you to do.

mindcrime 14y ago
The fact is that HTML5 is still really only version 0.1 of where web programming should be That's one way of looking at it. Another point of view is that HTML already does far more than it needs to, to serve as a perfectly adequate hypertext format. It could be argued that it's a mistake to try to morph the web-browser into a crappy OS and / or a poor man's UI remoting technology, when we already have perfectly good operating systems and technologies for remoting out UIs or delivering applications to remote locations. Perhaps instead of trying to make the browser a Swiss-Army-Do-Everything-Polymorphic-FrankensteinsMonster-OperatingSystem-XServer-ApplicationRuntime, we should just use the browser to browser hypertext, and hand off handling of these other issues to purpose specific software that was designed to do that.
- daleharvey 14y ago
  we already have triple figures of good operating systems and technologies for remoting out UIs We only have one web stack, it may differ a little at the bleeding edge, but that the core its the same stack deliverable to pretty much every user and device in the world. (disclaimer, I work on aforementioned Firefox OS :)

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Of course javascript is crap... ...however, this is also true of every other part of web programming: HTML and CSS are similarly a mixture of academic navel ga

by drcode 14y ago

mindcrime 14y ago
The fact is that HTML5 is still really only version 0.1 of where web programming should be That's one way of looking at it. Another point of view is that HTML already does far more than it needs to, to serve as a perfectly adequate hypertext format. It could be argued that it's a mistake to try to morph the web-browser into a crappy OS and / or a poor man's UI remoting technology, when we already have perfectly good operating systems and technologies for remoting out UIs or delivering applications to remote locations. Perhaps instead of trying to make the browser a Swiss-Army-Do-Everything-Polymorphic-FrankensteinsMonster-OperatingSystem-XServer-ApplicationRuntime, we should just use the browser to browser hypertext, and hand off handling of these other issues to purpose specific software that was designed to do that.
- daleharvey 14y ago
  we already have triple figures of good operating systems and technologies for remoting out UIs We only have one web stack, it may differ a little at the bleeding edge, but that the core its the same stack deliverable to pretty much every user and device in the world. (disclaimer, I work on aforementioned Firefox OS :)