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> How about a 100% tariff on Office 365, Windows, AWS, Azure, etc? Microsoft, Apple and Amazon all sell from EU countries, not US. My AWS and Azure Bills are E
by tiernano 2y ago
> How about a 100% tariff on Office 365, Windows, AWS, Azure, etc?
Microsoft, Apple and Amazon all sell from EU countries, not US. My AWS and Azure Bills are EU based, not US based...
- varjag 2y agoIf a steel company has a EU subsidiary it doesn't absolve it from import tariffs. Same with everything else. When AWS has its HQ and development in the EU it's another matter, but so far it's just a bunch of salespeople.
- wqaatwt 2y agoHow do you calculate the proportion of value coming from: - data centers operated in the EU - R&D done in the Europe (almost all major tech companies employ lots of developers etc. across Europe) What if European companies have offices and hire workers in the US? Do you tax them too? What EU could do that is double down and regulating US tech companies and charging them even more multi-billion “fines”.
- varjag 2y agoWhat proportion of it would be able to autonomously operate if North America disappears tomorrow? Zero. That means 100% of value comes from the USA.
- FirmwareBurner 2y agoThis. The IP comes from the US and most of the profits go to the US.
- wqaatwt 2y agoSo “tariffs” wouldn’t make much sense then and would be paid entirely by European businesses and consumers?
- varjag 2y agoTariffs are always paid by the businesses and consumers. That said, service hosting is a solved problem in 2025 and is mostly a matter of capital allocation. If it comes to a trade war, it's an easy way to eliminate overseas competition that dominates the established market in favor of local actors.
- wqaatwt 2y agoWell obviously but the idea is that if tariffs achieve their intended purpose (i.e. increase local production and competitiveness) those costs incurred by the consumers are at least partially compensated through higher wages.