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I'm so glad that a spat at the upper echelons of governments are going to cause untold misery for millions across the world for... no discernable benefit? Wonde

I'm so glad that a spat at the upper echelons of governments are going to cause untold misery for millions across the world for... no discernable benefit? Wonderful news.

FirmwareBurner 2y ago
>no discernable benefit? No discernable benefit to you maybe, but every crisis ends up benefiting those at the top as it always leads to a wealth transfer either during the crash phase, or the recovery phase, or both. See 2009 crash, Covid, etc. Your leadership doesn't work to serve you, they work to serve themselves and the elite. People keep calling Trump a stupid bafoon but how come this stupid bafoon keeps getting richer and richer all the time if he's as stupid as people think him to be? To whit, how much are you willing to bet that after Trump's mandate is over in 4 years time, both Trump, Elon and all his other cronies, will walk away with a bigger net worth than the one they came in? So no, what you see as stupidity now on the news is actually a carefully orchestrated multi year enrichment plan for the elite covered in bread and circus to distract the plebs, that will become evident as time goes on and events unfold.
- lifestyleguru 2y ago
  There is nothing left down here to be vacuumed up, as we probably agreed by now that trickling down doesn't happen.
- Detrytus 2y ago
  Maybe that's the Trump plan? 1. Launch TRUMP and MELANIA cryptocurrencies to get a few hundred millions of dollars of cash. (and possibly also get some cash from the "First Buddy" Elon Musk) 2. Announce tariffs, and in general cause chaos, crashing the stock market. 3. Buy the dip. 4. Revoke all tariffs. 5. Profit.
  - FirmwareBurner 2y ago
    Don't forget shorts.
- maxehmookau 2y ago
  True. Sorry, I thought that was implied!
- 9dev 2y ago
  Tangent, but I think from a certain level onwards, money keeps multiplying itself. You’ve got people working for you that take care of the smart decisions and investments, and people like trump are way too busy with their schemes and bullshit to care about the „boring“ parts of tending to their wealth.
elif 2y ago
Perhaps you missed this, but emperor says that we will be so rich soon that we won't know what to spend all our money on. Just hold on. /s
- mdiesel 2y ago
  He's right, the problem is everyone mistakenly thinks they're one of "we"
  - esarbe 2y ago
    Everyone is a temporarily embarrassed millionaire. That's why they are voting like they are millionaires. Humans are not good a thinking.
pjc50 2y ago
They like the misery. And it's what their constituents want and voted for. People really underestimate the angry pro-misery constituency.
watwut 2y ago
> governments Why the plural? This is something that was very much US made and other countries have no choice but to react. This is not something caused by multiple "upper echelons of governments". This is something caused by exactly one government - US one. What did you expect, other countries to instantly give up their economy and soverenity the moment Trump said "I hate you and seek to harm you economically"? Especially since he added multiple times "and I want to annex you, take away pieces of your territory" and then added completely baseless accusations as a reason for it?
- maxehmookau 2y ago
  Personally I didn't expect anything, I'm British. My point is more that it's economic ping-pong beyond the control of almost everyone except governments. The US government is specifically to blame here though, of course.
- immibis 2y ago
  This trade war may be caused by one government, but they're not the only one causing untold misery for millions for no discernable benefit.
  - permalac 2y ago
    Care to explain? I'm willing to do the mental gimnastics if guided. Ilistrate.

I'm so glad that a spat at the upper echelons of governments are going to cause untold misery for millions across the world for... no discernable benefit? Wonderful news.

FirmwareBurner 2y ago

>no discernable benefit? No discernable benefit to you maybe, but every crisis ends up benefiting those at the top as it always leads to a wealth transfer either during the crash phase, or the recovery phase, or both. See 2009 crash, Covid, etc. Your leadership doesn't work to serve you, they work to serve themselves and the elite. People keep calling Trump a stupid bafoon but how come this stupid bafoon keeps getting richer and richer all the time if he's as stupid as people think him to be? To whit, how much are you willing to bet that after Trump's mandate is over in 4 years time, both Trump, Elon and all his other cronies, will walk away with a bigger net worth than the one they came in? So no, what you see as stupidity now on the news is actually a carefully orchestrated multi year enrichment plan for the elite covered in bread and circus to distract the plebs, that will become evident as time goes on and events unfold.

lifestyleguru 2y ago
There is nothing left down here to be vacuumed up, as we probably agreed by now that trickling down doesn't happen.
Detrytus 2y ago
Maybe that's the Trump plan? 1. Launch TRUMP and MELANIA cryptocurrencies to get a few hundred millions of dollars of cash. (and possibly also get some cash from the "First Buddy" Elon Musk) 2. Announce tariffs, and in general cause chaos, crashing the stock market. 3. Buy the dip. 4. Revoke all tariffs. 5. Profit.
- FirmwareBurner 2y ago
  Don't forget shorts.
maxehmookau 2y ago
True. Sorry, I thought that was implied!
9dev 2y ago
Tangent, but I think from a certain level onwards, money keeps multiplying itself. You’ve got people working for you that take care of the smart decisions and investments, and people like trump are way too busy with their schemes and bullshit to care about the „boring“ parts of tending to their wealth.

elif 2y ago

Perhaps you missed this, but emperor says that we will be so rich soon that we won't know what to spend all our money on. Just hold on. /s

mdiesel 2y ago
He's right, the problem is everyone mistakenly thinks they're one of "we"
- esarbe 2y ago
  Everyone is a temporarily embarrassed millionaire. That's why they are voting like they are millionaires. Humans are not good a thinking.

pjc50 2y ago

They like the misery. And it's what their constituents want and voted for. People really underestimate the angry pro-misery constituency.

watwut 2y ago

> governments Why the plural? This is something that was very much US made and other countries have no choice but to react. This is not something caused by multiple "upper echelons of governments". This is something caused by exactly one government - US one. What did you expect, other countries to instantly give up their economy and soverenity the moment Trump said "I hate you and seek to harm you economically"? Especially since he added multiple times "and I want to annex you, take away pieces of your territory" and then added completely baseless accusations as a reason for it?

maxehmookau 2y ago
Personally I didn't expect anything, I'm British. My point is more that it's economic ping-pong beyond the control of almost everyone except governments. The US government is specifically to blame here though, of course.
immibis 2y ago
This trade war may be caused by one government, but they're not the only one causing untold misery for millions for no discernable benefit.
- permalac 2y ago
  Care to explain? I'm willing to do the mental gimnastics if guided. Ilistrate.