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No one is trying to make war, but naturally China is looking at changing the order of things, at least regionally. To make that happen it needs USA to move out,

No one is trying to make war, but naturally China is looking at changing the order of things, at least regionally. To make that happen it needs USA to move out, and create its own coalition of countries around the area.

thuanao 2y ago
USA needs to move out and stop trying to start a war with China. Taiwan is China. Historically, legally, even according to the US's own policy. The KMT lost. This fantasy the US has of toppling or splitting up the PRC in a proxy war is extremely deranged. China has exercised incredible restraint over the actions of a belligerent warmonger US.
- Galatians4_16 2y ago
  Taiwan is a sovereign nation, and West Taiwan needs to accept that.
- deleted 2y ago
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- idiotsecant 2y ago
  The Taiwan obsessed PRC loonies online always seem to think that the west spends way more time thinking about Taiwan then they actually do.
- BLKNSLVR 2y ago
  I don't agree with most of what you've written, however, if the US has only mineral-profits interest in defending Ukraine from Russia, then there's only slightly above zero chance that the US will be rushing to defend Taiwan from China. What seems more likely is that the US will agree to let China take Taiwan in return for allowing the trade of TSMC chips to continue. TSMC is the majoity (only?) value proposition the US has in Taiwan, and, from memory and a cursory Wikipeding, it seems that TSMC has been 'de-centralising' into Japan, the US, and Europe of late.
watwut 2y ago
America seems to be trying to make war, unexpectedly with Canada. Also, the only coalition America seems to be interested in is the one with Russia. Also, multiple foreign countries like Russia are trying to make war right now.
- chrisco255 2y ago
  America is nowhere close to going to war with Canada. Tariffs are import taxes, not weapons of war. Good lord.
  - mercutio2 2y ago
    Telling a sovereign nation, and the US’s closest ally, it should become the 51st US state isn’t making war, but it’s way more than imposing tariffs in contravention of treaties this president signed in his last term.
    - chrisco255 2y ago
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      - Brybry 2y ago
        Dairy quotas are part of USMCA.[1] The issue under Biden was protectionist/preferential policies which were challenged and got changed through the dispute mechanism[2]. The changed policy was then disputed again but the US lost the dispute[3]. The US has never gotten close to surpassing the tariff-rate quotas so the tariffs haven't applied.[4] Though the American dairy industry claims that's because of further protectionist policies.[5] I'm not an expert on this so if you have more specific information please share sources. [1] https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/files/agreements/FTA/USMCA/Text/02%20National%20Treatment%20and%20Market%20Access.pdf https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/files/agreements/FTA/US... [2] https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2022/january/what-they-are-saying-united-states-prevails-usmca-dispute-canadian-dairy-restrictions https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-... [3] https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2023/november/usmca-panel-releases-canada-dairy-report-biden-harris-administration-will-continue-seeking-full https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-... [4] https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-trump-doesn-t-120052228.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-trump-doesn-t-12005222... [5] https://www.idfa.org/news/idfa-statement-on-potential-u-s-tariff-on-canadian-dairy-products https://www.idfa.org/news/idfa-statement-on-potential-u-s-ta...

thuanao 2y ago

USA needs to move out and stop trying to start a war with China. Taiwan is China. Historically, legally, even according to the US's own policy. The KMT lost. This fantasy the US has of toppling or splitting up the PRC in a proxy war is extremely deranged. China has exercised incredible restraint over the actions of a belligerent warmonger US.

Galatians4_16 2y ago
Taiwan is a sovereign nation, and West Taiwan needs to accept that.
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idiotsecant 2y ago
The Taiwan obsessed PRC loonies online always seem to think that the west spends way more time thinking about Taiwan then they actually do.
BLKNSLVR 2y ago
I don't agree with most of what you've written, however, if the US has only mineral-profits interest in defending Ukraine from Russia, then there's only slightly above zero chance that the US will be rushing to defend Taiwan from China. What seems more likely is that the US will agree to let China take Taiwan in return for allowing the trade of TSMC chips to continue. TSMC is the majoity (only?) value proposition the US has in Taiwan, and, from memory and a cursory Wikipeding, it seems that TSMC has been 'de-centralising' into Japan, the US, and Europe of late.

watwut 2y ago

America seems to be trying to make war, unexpectedly with Canada. Also, the only coalition America seems to be interested in is the one with Russia. Also, multiple foreign countries like Russia are trying to make war right now.

chrisco255 2y ago
America is nowhere close to going to war with Canada. Tariffs are import taxes, not weapons of war. Good lord.
- mercutio2 2y ago
  Telling a sovereign nation, and the US’s closest ally, it should become the 51st US state isn’t making war, but it’s way more than imposing tariffs in contravention of treaties this president signed in his last term.
  - chrisco255 2y ago
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    - Brybry 2y ago
      Dairy quotas are part of USMCA.[1] The issue under Biden was protectionist/preferential policies which were challenged and got changed through the dispute mechanism[2]. The changed policy was then disputed again but the US lost the dispute[3]. The US has never gotten close to surpassing the tariff-rate quotas so the tariffs haven't applied.[4] Though the American dairy industry claims that's because of further protectionist policies.[5] I'm not an expert on this so if you have more specific information please share sources. [1] https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/files/agreements/FTA/USMCA/Text/02%20National%20Treatment%20and%20Market%20Access.pdf https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/files/agreements/FTA/US... [2] https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2022/january/what-they-are-saying-united-states-prevails-usmca-dispute-canadian-dairy-restrictions https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-... [3] https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-releases/2023/november/usmca-panel-releases-canada-dairy-report-biden-harris-administration-will-continue-seeking-full https://ustr.gov/about-us/policy-offices/press-office/press-... [4] https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-trump-doesn-t-120052228.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-trump-doesn-t-12005222... [5] https://www.idfa.org/news/idfa-statement-on-potential-u-s-tariff-on-canadian-dairy-products https://www.idfa.org/news/idfa-statement-on-potential-u-s-ta...