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Security theatre. The chance of France providing Canada a credible nuclear unmbrella is zero. The chance of Canada nuclearizing without triggering both sides in

Security theatre. The chance of France providing Canada a credible nuclear unmbrella is zero. The chance of Canada nuclearizing without triggering both sides in US is zero.The chance of Canada out strongmanning Trump is zero. The only realstic play Canada has is kiss ass for the next few years, but not Poilievre tier milhouse energy kiss ass.

_DeadFred_ 2y ago
Curious, would you of 2 months ago waive away a French nuclear sub making a show of force visit against the USA at a Canada port?
- maxglute 2y ago
  The notion that french sub can show off force vs CONUS in halifax is just inherently not credible, even as security theatre. It's a nice gimme to those looking to huff some hopium. NATO sans US have their hands full figuring out if they can give UKR security, idea they can do shit all for CAN is too unserious to entertain.
  - _DeadFred_ 2y ago
    That's not an answer to my question. If two months ago you were told a French nuclear submarine would make a show of force in a Canadian harbor in response to US aggression against Canada would you just have waived it all away as a nothing burger?
    - maxglute 2y ago
      As Canadian, I predicted 2 months ago Trump was going to slap the shit out of Canada and the only way to avert was to replace Trudeau with someone that Trump can chum with and best bet for Canada is to obsequious with least impact on Canadian interests. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42616089 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42616089 If pressed I would have predicted delulu Atlantacist who can't eat crow for domestic politics would try to virtue signal some sort of defiant solidarity, even though on paper their ability to assist Canada is nothing burger tier. Again, I would not categorize this as show of force - it's hopium - the idea that NATO sans US can park enough firepower around Canada to stop US armor companies from daytripping down highways connected to all Canadian urban centres is not serious.

_DeadFred_ 2y ago

Curious, would you of 2 months ago waive away a French nuclear sub making a show of force visit against the USA at a Canada port?

maxglute 2y ago
The notion that french sub can show off force vs CONUS in halifax is just inherently not credible, even as security theatre. It's a nice gimme to those looking to huff some hopium. NATO sans US have their hands full figuring out if they can give UKR security, idea they can do shit all for CAN is too unserious to entertain.
- _DeadFred_ 2y ago
  That's not an answer to my question. If two months ago you were told a French nuclear submarine would make a show of force in a Canadian harbor in response to US aggression against Canada would you just have waived it all away as a nothing burger?
  - maxglute 2y ago
    As Canadian, I predicted 2 months ago Trump was going to slap the shit out of Canada and the only way to avert was to replace Trudeau with someone that Trump can chum with and best bet for Canada is to obsequious with least impact on Canadian interests. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42616089 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42616089 If pressed I would have predicted delulu Atlantacist who can't eat crow for domestic politics would try to virtue signal some sort of defiant solidarity, even though on paper their ability to assist Canada is nothing burger tier. Again, I would not categorize this as show of force - it's hopium - the idea that NATO sans US can park enough firepower around Canada to stop US armor companies from daytripping down highways connected to all Canadian urban centres is not serious.