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> I could make plausible sounding recordings that did not reflect reality by, for example, cutting recordings up with freeware like Audacity, Cutting up what

> I could make plausible sounding recordings that did not reflect reality by, for example, cutting recordings up with freeware like Audacity, Cutting up what recordings, exactly? If you're mixing-and-matching, you need a pretty broad corpus of source material with fairly consistent recording quality (background noise, etc), and even still you're limited to reproducing words that are already present. You can't cut-and-splice together a recording of me saying 'Yes, dghlsakjg, I embezzled $1 million and blew it on the ponies' because there will be no recording of me saying your username, 'embezzled', or 'ponies.' The problem comes with the voice-cloning technology that can construct entirely new sentences based on relatively short voice profile samples. > I've been able to sound like Morgan Freeman using a phone app for at least half a decade You've been able to sound like Morgan Freeman because of specific, hard tuning work put into the voice changer. Now, you can sound like your boss, or your neighbour, or your ex.

gus_massa 2y ago
I agree. I edited the audio of a few math videos to upload to YouTube and I had to fix "typos" like "then one plus zero is zero". The problem is that there are no spaces in the voice, so it sounds like "thenonepluszeroiszero." So I had to look for a "one" that is in a similar context, after an "s" and before a ".", or at least a similar one. And hope the speed matches, and adjust the volume. They were free videos, so it was not necesary to get it perfect, but at least reduce the distraction caused by mistakes.
- gus_massa 2y ago
  Toooo late to edit: '"s"' should be '"n"'.
dghlsakjg 2y ago
I'm giving limited examples, not a conclusive list of how audio could be manipulated. I understand that there are circumstances where my examples don't work. My broader point is that audio evidence has never been perfect, just like every other medium that evidence can exist in. Generative audio technology is not the first time that audio has been corruptible as evidence, and any lawyer who believed otherwise was naive at best.
- pixl97 2y ago
  When I was younger I never had a solicited call on my landline. Simply put any place that would have called to try and sell me something would have been long distance and it wasn't worth the cost. Back then I always answered the phone because it was going to be something important. Then the cost of long distance started to drop to zero and the commercial calls started coming in. After it was zero, the outright illegal scams showed up. Now, probably one out of every fifty calls to me is an actual legitimate call. My phone goes to automatic voicemail if you're not already in my contacts. Were talking about both quantitative changes and qualitative changes. Things like this can have large impacts on society.

gus_massa 2y ago

I agree. I edited the audio of a few math videos to upload to YouTube and I had to fix "typos" like "then one plus zero is zero". The problem is that there are no spaces in the voice, so it sounds like "thenonepluszeroiszero." So I had to look for a "one" that is in a similar context, after an "s" and before a ".", or at least a similar one. And hope the speed matches, and adjust the volume. They were free videos, so it was not necesary to get it perfect, but at least reduce the distraction caused by mistakes.

gus_massa 2y ago
Toooo late to edit: '"s"' should be '"n"'.

dghlsakjg 2y ago

I'm giving limited examples, not a conclusive list of how audio could be manipulated. I understand that there are circumstances where my examples don't work. My broader point is that audio evidence has never been perfect, just like every other medium that evidence can exist in. Generative audio technology is not the first time that audio has been corruptible as evidence, and any lawyer who believed otherwise was naive at best.

pixl97 2y ago
When I was younger I never had a solicited call on my landline. Simply put any place that would have called to try and sell me something would have been long distance and it wasn't worth the cost. Back then I always answered the phone because it was going to be something important. Then the cost of long distance started to drop to zero and the commercial calls started coming in. After it was zero, the outright illegal scams showed up. Now, probably one out of every fifty calls to me is an actual legitimate call. My phone goes to automatic voicemail if you're not already in my contacts. Were talking about both quantitative changes and qualitative changes. Things like this can have large impacts on society.