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can we not turn every thread into a politics one? i doubt the Trump admin has strongly vested interest in which post-quantum scheme is selected e: and yes, i a

can we not turn every thread into a politics one? i doubt the Trump admin has strongly vested interest in which post-quantum scheme is selected e: and yes, i am aware of the history around nist and crypto

kewho 2y ago
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123yawaworht456 2y ago
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Analemma_ 2y ago
> i doubt the Trump admin has strongly vested interest in which post-quantum scheme is selected That's not the argument being made, you're using that as a strawman to distract from the actual position, which is that indiscriminate layoffs (which is what DOGE is doing) reduce institutional competence and increase the likelihood that whatever scheme is selected is not fit for purpose. Address that argument, not the one you've invented in your head.
- whimsicalism 2y ago
  my point is merely that the quality of discussion in the replies to GGP are going to be bad [0][1][2], the relevance is tenuous, and it crowds out content based discussion. of course, now my content-based questions are getting downvoted. > reduce institutional competence and increase the likelihood most replies interpreted it the same way I did, likely due to the reference to 'loyalties' & 'trust'. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43333834 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43333834 [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43333698 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43333698 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43333643 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43333643
  - kewho 2y ago
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grayhatter 2y ago
That's a good question, the answer is no. That's the thing about politics... they touch everything. There's a popular youtuber that I like, he's got a funny saying "You might not fuck with politics, but politics will fuck with you!" Fits well here. You might wanna ignore politics when talking about something that should be pure math, but now that we're talking about why crypto is going to be the standards that all commercial software must support. Suddenly we now need to consider how confident we are in something. And really, that's all crypto boils down to is confidence in the difficulty of some maths. Was this recommended (soon mandated) with more or less care then the other options? How would we be able to tell. Is NIST likely to remake their previous unethical mistakes?
- timewizard 2y ago
  > they touch everything. No. They don't. The level at which politics has actually intersected with my life in the past year is zero. I suspect the same is true for the majority of people in the US. Your politics are mostly a fashion choice. You don't need to put them on display in literally ever conversation. You also cannot possibly change the world around you with this behavior so I can't understand why so many people feel the need to engage in it. > Suddenly we now need to consider The government is massive. You always need to consider this. Pretending that a choice of a single federal official is the difference maker here takes bizarre fashion choices into the completely absurd. The only thing you're doing is alienating half the audience with churlish behavior.
  - malcolmgreaves 2y ago
    I don’t believe that you have absolutely zero money invested in public stock markets.
  - ziddoap 2y ago
    >The level at which politics has actually intersected with my life in the past year is zero. Road maintenance, sewer connections, water and air quality, food safety, and a million other things that you interact with daily are all results of various levels of politics.
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kewho 2y ago

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123yawaworht456 2y ago

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Analemma_ 2y ago

> i doubt the Trump admin has strongly vested interest in which post-quantum scheme is selected That's not the argument being made, you're using that as a strawman to distract from the actual position, which is that indiscriminate layoffs (which is what DOGE is doing) reduce institutional competence and increase the likelihood that whatever scheme is selected is not fit for purpose. Address that argument, not the one you've invented in your head.

whimsicalism 2y ago
my point is merely that the quality of discussion in the replies to GGP are going to be bad [0][1][2], the relevance is tenuous, and it crowds out content based discussion. of course, now my content-based questions are getting downvoted. > reduce institutional competence and increase the likelihood most replies interpreted it the same way I did, likely due to the reference to 'loyalties' & 'trust'. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43333834 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43333834 [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43333698 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43333698 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43333643 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43333643
- kewho 2y ago
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grayhatter 2y ago

That's a good question, the answer is no. That's the thing about politics... they touch everything. There's a popular youtuber that I like, he's got a funny saying "You might not fuck with politics, but politics will fuck with you!" Fits well here. You might wanna ignore politics when talking about something that should be pure math, but now that we're talking about why crypto is going to be the standards that all commercial software must support. Suddenly we now need to consider how confident we are in something. And really, that's all crypto boils down to is confidence in the difficulty of some maths. Was this recommended (soon mandated) with more or less care then the other options? How would we be able to tell. Is NIST likely to remake their previous unethical mistakes?

timewizard 2y ago
> they touch everything. No. They don't. The level at which politics has actually intersected with my life in the past year is zero. I suspect the same is true for the majority of people in the US. Your politics are mostly a fashion choice. You don't need to put them on display in literally ever conversation. You also cannot possibly change the world around you with this behavior so I can't understand why so many people feel the need to engage in it. > Suddenly we now need to consider The government is massive. You always need to consider this. Pretending that a choice of a single federal official is the difference maker here takes bizarre fashion choices into the completely absurd. The only thing you're doing is alienating half the audience with churlish behavior.
- malcolmgreaves 2y ago
  I don’t believe that you have absolutely zero money invested in public stock markets.
- ziddoap 2y ago
  >The level at which politics has actually intersected with my life in the past year is zero. Road maintenance, sewer connections, water and air quality, food safety, and a million other things that you interact with daily are all results of various levels of politics.
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