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The article states that Earth's moon was captured by a "slap in the face" rather than by a kiss. Pluto's moon is the one captured by a kiss.

by _ink_ 2y ago

pfdietz 2y ago
Oxygen isotope ratios on the Moon are extremely close to those on Earth, which indicates intimate sharing of material during the event.
- consp 2y ago
  So a very French kiss?
  - pfdietz 2y ago
    There was definitely sharing of bodily fluids.
- positr0n 2y ago
  Why are they expected to be different on different planetary bodies without sharing of materials? Is the early solar nebula kind of like a reverse centrifuge with denser isotopes near the sun and lighter ones further away?
  - pfdietz 2y ago
    It's not that they're expected to differ, it's that they do differ. If you look at oxygen isotopes from meteorites the ratios are all over the place. Also, Mars meteorites (which we know are from Mars because of noble gas isotope ratios being the same as measured by Viking landers) have different oxygen isotope ratios than Earth. All rocks on Earth and on the Moon have ratios that lie on a single line, the Standard Mean Ocean Water (SMOW) line. BTW, the fact that meteorites have a wide variety of ratios that don't lie on a single line indicates meteorites derived from asteroids did not come from a single parent body. There was no planet between Mars and Jupiter that exploded to form the asteroid belt, bad science fiction stories notwithstanding.
crazygringo 2y ago
> Dwarf planet Pluto and our Earth are the only two worlds in our solar system with very large moons. These may have come about by a "kiss and capture" process, which preserves a moon's large size. > The Earth's moon is believed to have formed from a similar process, the researchers explained in a written statement, but it was more like a slap in the face rather than a kiss. Yup, that's just bad writing. Decide on your metaphor and stick to it. Don't say something is X, and then halfway through the article say it's not X.
emmelaich 2y ago
NASA simulation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRlhlCWplqk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRlhlCWplqk
- stronglikedan 2y ago
  Aw, it's like the friend that's walking a quarter mile behind the group screaming "guys, wait up!", but no one ever waits.

The article states that Earth's moon was captured by a "slap in the face" rather than by a kiss. Pluto's moon is the one captured by a kiss.

by _ink_ 2y ago

The article states that Earth's moon was captured by a "slap in the face" rather than by a kiss. Pluto's moon is the one captured by a kiss.

pfdietz 2y ago

Oxygen isotope ratios on the Moon are extremely close to those on Earth, which indicates intimate sharing of material during the event.

consp 2y ago
So a very French kiss?
- pfdietz 2y ago
  There was definitely sharing of bodily fluids.
positr0n 2y ago
Why are they expected to be different on different planetary bodies without sharing of materials? Is the early solar nebula kind of like a reverse centrifuge with denser isotopes near the sun and lighter ones further away?
- pfdietz 2y ago
  It's not that they're expected to differ, it's that they do differ. If you look at oxygen isotopes from meteorites the ratios are all over the place. Also, Mars meteorites (which we know are from Mars because of noble gas isotope ratios being the same as measured by Viking landers) have different oxygen isotope ratios than Earth. All rocks on Earth and on the Moon have ratios that lie on a single line, the Standard Mean Ocean Water (SMOW) line. BTW, the fact that meteorites have a wide variety of ratios that don't lie on a single line indicates meteorites derived from asteroids did not come from a single parent body. There was no planet between Mars and Jupiter that exploded to form the asteroid belt, bad science fiction stories notwithstanding.

crazygringo 2y ago

> Dwarf planet Pluto and our Earth are the only two worlds in our solar system with very large moons. These may have come about by a "kiss and capture" process, which preserves a moon's large size. > The Earth's moon is believed to have formed from a similar process, the researchers explained in a written statement, but it was more like a slap in the face rather than a kiss. Yup, that's just bad writing. Decide on your metaphor and stick to it. Don't say something is X, and then halfway through the article say it's not X.

emmelaich 2y ago

NASA simulation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRlhlCWplqk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRlhlCWplqk

stronglikedan 2y ago
Aw, it's like the friend that's walking a quarter mile behind the group screaming "guys, wait up!", but no one ever waits.