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Do they? Pay in Europe is lower, but life is a lot nicer. If you aren't chasing the numbers and you aren't host to an American strain of brainwashing that makes

Do they? Pay in Europe is lower, but life is a lot nicer. If you aren't chasing the numbers and you aren't host to an American strain of brainwashing that makes you think it's the only free country, life in Europe is better.

kragen 2y ago
It probably depends on what your personal situation is in Europe. One country in Europe is currently being invaded by another European country†, resulting so far in about a million casualties and 16 million refugees. Both countries have established conscription and prohibited emigration for military-age men. To me this seems like a bigger determinant of how nice life is than anything related to either pay or the level of economic and technological development. Perhaps you disagree. ______ † Some might debate whether it's a European country, because much of its territory is in Asia. However, its capital, currently on fire due to large-scale drone attacks last night, is the largest city in Europe, and most of its population is in Europe.
- immibis 2y ago
  When people say "Europe is a nicer place to live" they do not mean eastern Ukraine. I think you know this. Even the political instability in the rest of it is less severe than the political instability in the USA. At least for now. I mean, 40% of Germany's land area voted for Nazis to come back, but every other serious party is saying they will not work with the Nazis, which is not how it would go down in the USA.
  - kragen 2y ago
    > When people say "Europe is a nicer place to live" they do not mean eastern Ukraine. You can cherry-pick living situations from anywhere in the world. St. Louis, MO is probably a pretty nice place to live if you're living inside Jack Dorsey's house. If you want to make general statements about how nice it is to live on entire continents, you need to take the entire continent into account, not just the part of it you like most or least. Fortunately for America, most of America is outside the USA, and is very unenthusiastic about the authoritarian tendencies growing in parts of it like El Salvador and the USA.

kragen 2y ago

It probably depends on what your personal situation is in Europe. One country in Europe is currently being invaded by another European country†, resulting so far in about a million casualties and 16 million refugees. Both countries have established conscription and prohibited emigration for military-age men. To me this seems like a bigger determinant of how nice life is than anything related to either pay or the level of economic and technological development. Perhaps you disagree. ______ † Some might debate whether it's a European country, because much of its territory is in Asia. However, its capital, currently on fire due to large-scale drone attacks last night, is the largest city in Europe, and most of its population is in Europe.

immibis 2y ago
When people say "Europe is a nicer place to live" they do not mean eastern Ukraine. I think you know this. Even the political instability in the rest of it is less severe than the political instability in the USA. At least for now. I mean, 40% of Germany's land area voted for Nazis to come back, but every other serious party is saying they will not work with the Nazis, which is not how it would go down in the USA.
- kragen 2y ago
  > When people say "Europe is a nicer place to live" they do not mean eastern Ukraine. You can cherry-pick living situations from anywhere in the world. St. Louis, MO is probably a pretty nice place to live if you're living inside Jack Dorsey's house. If you want to make general statements about how nice it is to live on entire continents, you need to take the entire continent into account, not just the part of it you like most or least. Fortunately for America, most of America is outside the USA, and is very unenthusiastic about the authoritarian tendencies growing in parts of it like El Salvador and the USA.