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Rubbish, Hyundai and Kia and far ahead of Tesla in terms of overall package. If all you value is 0-60, then that's on you. But sit in both cars and the qualit

Rubbish, Hyundai and Kia and far ahead of Tesla in terms of overall package. If all you value is 0-60, then that's on you. But sit in both cars and the quality speaks volumes. You can tell where Tesla keep cutting costs, whereas Hyundai (yes Hyundai!) make quality.

dzhiurgis 2y ago
They still sell cars without heatpump or hepa filters. They are nowhere near, especially for the cost.
- LightBug1 2y ago
  They do have heatpumps now, and can upgrade standard filter to Hepa if you want. So ... your points aren't that much of a biggy. For me, it's about quality. If you sit in a ioniq 5 or EV6 and then sit in a model 3 and tell me they're of a similar quality ... I don't know what to tell you. Emphasis on 'overall package'.
  - dzhiurgis 2y ago
    Now compare how much that same trim costs...
    - LightBug1 2y ago
      Regardless. Your points are only mildly important to me. You seem to be basing your entire decision/argument on them. I repeat my proposition. Go sit in them. The end. Sounds like you're not up for a change of mind and I'm not in the business of changing minds, but I will call shit out.
      - dzhiurgis 2y ago
        I did sit in one about 4 years ago when they came out. So did in Ioniq5. Drove Kona extensively. I choose Tesla 2 years after making comprehensive spreadsheet of all features. Kia/Hyundai weren't even close. I didn't do comprehensive drive tho, but lack of autopilot easily beats any feature Kia/Hyundai can provide.
        LightBug1 2y ago
        Agree to differ. I assume it's priority variance. Anyway, a shame you didn't wait a year or two. It's likely you could have picked up 2 for the price of 1 in today's market. Looking at the used market where I am - Tesla prices have absolutely crashed compared to Hyundai. Crazy to buy one new and, because of the price difference, the obvious choice is to buy the Tesla used ... but I still wouldn't. But it's funny. In the second hand market, Hyundai are the premium player! Which is actually hilarious historically speaking. Anyway, all the best
        dzhiurgis 2y ago
        I was in a pinch with old car giving up and with a bit of cash on hand while EVs subsidies were high and Tesla just dropped their price. Lost about 20k NZD in depreciation, but did 62kkm. So that's nearly 15k NZD in petrol savings alone. Looking at Ioniq5/ev6 they've depreciated same if not more.

dzhiurgis 2y ago

They still sell cars without heatpump or hepa filters. They are nowhere near, especially for the cost.

LightBug1 2y ago
They do have heatpumps now, and can upgrade standard filter to Hepa if you want. So ... your points aren't that much of a biggy. For me, it's about quality. If you sit in a ioniq 5 or EV6 and then sit in a model 3 and tell me they're of a similar quality ... I don't know what to tell you. Emphasis on 'overall package'.
- dzhiurgis 2y ago
  Now compare how much that same trim costs...
  - LightBug1 2y ago
    Regardless. Your points are only mildly important to me. You seem to be basing your entire decision/argument on them. I repeat my proposition. Go sit in them. The end. Sounds like you're not up for a change of mind and I'm not in the business of changing minds, but I will call shit out.
    - dzhiurgis 2y ago
      I did sit in one about 4 years ago when they came out. So did in Ioniq5. Drove Kona extensively. I choose Tesla 2 years after making comprehensive spreadsheet of all features. Kia/Hyundai weren't even close. I didn't do comprehensive drive tho, but lack of autopilot easily beats any feature Kia/Hyundai can provide.
      - LightBug1 2y ago
        Agree to differ. I assume it's priority variance. Anyway, a shame you didn't wait a year or two. It's likely you could have picked up 2 for the price of 1 in today's market. Looking at the used market where I am - Tesla prices have absolutely crashed compared to Hyundai. Crazy to buy one new and, because of the price difference, the obvious choice is to buy the Tesla used ... but I still wouldn't. But it's funny. In the second hand market, Hyundai are the premium player! Which is actually hilarious historically speaking. Anyway, all the best
        dzhiurgis 2y ago
        I was in a pinch with old car giving up and with a bit of cash on hand while EVs subsidies were high and Tesla just dropped their price. Lost about 20k NZD in depreciation, but did 62kkm. So that's nearly 15k NZD in petrol savings alone. Looking at Ioniq5/ev6 they've depreciated same if not more.