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It is much harder to report on problems in China than in India for one.

lupusreal 2y ago
There's no shortage of industrial and traffic accident videos coming out of China, very often showcasing horrendous working conditions and absolutely depraved levels of apathy from onlookers, which is to say that China isn't very good at suppressing videos that make them look bad. But in all of these videos, China looks 1000x more clean than India. Am I to believe that the Chinese government cares more about suppressing videos that show litter on the streets than a video of a woman slowly running over a child, putting her car in reverse and running over them again, all while people walk by and pretend they don't see it happen?
- thatloststudent 2y ago
  Is it that hard to find? This[1] took me one search on YouTube. I agree that India is filthy, but it's not hard to find such videos for China either. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hEJKOD1ux14 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hEJKOD1ux14
  - ethan_smith 2y ago
    Do these look the same level of filthy to you? This is the capital city New Delhi (Yamuna River, which is worshipped): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83t0hdJG8AI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83t0hdJG8AI
- insane_dreamer 2y ago
  > China isn't very good at suppressing videos that make them look bad they are extremely good at suppressing such videos internally they will sometimes allow something like the particular video you mention (I was living in China when that video went viral, this was about 10 years ago) because it directs anger at individuals' bad behavior, not at the government (in fact, in favors the government making and enforcing rules to disallow bad citizen behavior)
- gosub100 2y ago
  The lack of help from bystanders is/was due to some strange liability doctrine that assisting can/could make you liable for damages. This is fairly old information though so hopefully it has changed. Industrial accidents happen in the US too, although I don't know what rate vs China. I think the fact that their factories have surveillance at all shows they are taking action to improve safety. You've got to consider, the population is 1.4bn, so there is going to be more freak accidents caught on camera.

There's no shortage of industrial and traffic accident videos coming out of China, very often showcasing horrendous working conditions and absolutely depraved levels of apathy from onlookers, which is to say that China isn't very good at suppressing videos that make them look bad. But in all of these videos, China looks 1000x more clean than India. Am I to believe that the Chinese government cares more about suppressing videos that show litter on the streets than a video of a woman slowly running over a child, putting her car in reverse and running over them again, all while people walk by and pretend they don't see it happen?

thatloststudent 2y ago
Is it that hard to find? This[1] took me one search on YouTube. I agree that India is filthy, but it's not hard to find such videos for China either. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hEJKOD1ux14 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hEJKOD1ux14
- ethan_smith 2y ago
  Do these look the same level of filthy to you? This is the capital city New Delhi (Yamuna River, which is worshipped): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83t0hdJG8AI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83t0hdJG8AI
insane_dreamer 2y ago
> China isn't very good at suppressing videos that make them look bad they are extremely good at suppressing such videos internally they will sometimes allow something like the particular video you mention (I was living in China when that video went viral, this was about 10 years ago) because it directs anger at individuals' bad behavior, not at the government (in fact, in favors the government making and enforcing rules to disallow bad citizen behavior)
gosub100 2y ago
The lack of help from bystanders is/was due to some strange liability doctrine that assisting can/could make you liable for damages. This is fairly old information though so hopefully it has changed. Industrial accidents happen in the US too, although I don't know what rate vs China. I think the fact that their factories have surveillance at all shows they are taking action to improve safety. You've got to consider, the population is 1.4bn, so there is going to be more freak accidents caught on camera.