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I've also had a very "sustainable" 6800k machine with 32GB ram that was designated later for many other tasks. But the title is more of a click bait rather tha

I've also had a very "sustainable" 6800k machine with 32GB ram that was designated later for many other tasks. But the title is more of a click bait rather than backing that claim. The power source I guess is also a factor, since newer Macs are much more power efficient than Intel days. Since 2016, Apple made their machines less "sustainable" in the sense of upgradability (my MacBook Air 2013 was borderline with 8GB of RAM and ended with 2TB hdd), I'm happy the new Mac minis are also going that "hackable" direction. Anyway, Software wise, the "Hackintosh" scene is also valuable for true macOS users just as enabling Windows 11 on unsupported hardware, you can get up to Sequoia with running those custom EFIs.

opengears 2y ago
The power savings of new computers are not relevant if compared with the energy that is needed to build them. University of Edinburgh (2016) found that by extending the lifetime of a single computer and monitor from four years to six years, approximately 190 kgCO2e of carbon emissions are avoided (I doubt anyone is using their devices even 4 years nowadays). Report is here: https://edwebcontent.ed.ac.uk/sites/default/files/atoms/files/pc-carbonfootprints-jh-ecci2.pdf https://edwebcontent.ed.ac.uk/sites/default/files/atoms/file...
- Kon-Peki 2y ago
  You can see it straight from the horse's mouth, too. On pages 13 and 14 [1], they estimate that between 9 and 23% of the total lifetime emissions for a Mac mini come from using it. The rest is manufacturing and distribution. According to the fine print, the lifecycle of the computer is determined by some ISO standards and I spent a good 10 minutes searching the web to determine a ballpark figure for this (3 years? 5 years? 10 years?) and came up completely empty. [1] https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/desktops/Mac_mini_PER_Oct2024.pdf https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/desktops/Mac_...
- hot_gril 2y ago
  The nice thing is that all those new x86 laptops are going to keep being slower than my 2020 M1 mini unless they're high spec, so software/websites are still built with that in mind.
salviati 2y ago
[Edit] Ok, I should have read better. i7-6800k is from intel and not from the stone age. --- Are you sure your 68000 machine had 32Gb of ram? If memory serves me well it was most likely 32 Mb. 68020 has a 32 bit address space, so the maximum RAM it can handle is 4Gb
- bogantech 2y ago
  They're talking about the i7-6800k https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/94189/intel-core-i76800k-processor-15m-cache-up-to-3-60-ghz/specifications.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/94189/i...
- hot_gril 2y ago
  Honestly I saw 6800k and thought it was the Motorola 6800.

opengears 2y ago

The power savings of new computers are not relevant if compared with the energy that is needed to build them. University of Edinburgh (2016) found that by extending the lifetime of a single computer and monitor from four years to six years, approximately 190 kgCO2e of carbon emissions are avoided (I doubt anyone is using their devices even 4 years nowadays). Report is here: https://edwebcontent.ed.ac.uk/sites/default/files/atoms/files/pc-carbonfootprints-jh-ecci2.pdf https://edwebcontent.ed.ac.uk/sites/default/files/atoms/file...

Kon-Peki 2y ago
You can see it straight from the horse's mouth, too. On pages 13 and 14 [1], they estimate that between 9 and 23% of the total lifetime emissions for a Mac mini come from using it. The rest is manufacturing and distribution. According to the fine print, the lifecycle of the computer is determined by some ISO standards and I spent a good 10 minutes searching the web to determine a ballpark figure for this (3 years? 5 years? 10 years?) and came up completely empty. [1] https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/desktops/Mac_mini_PER_Oct2024.pdf https://www.apple.com/environment/pdf/products/desktops/Mac_...
hot_gril 2y ago
The nice thing is that all those new x86 laptops are going to keep being slower than my 2020 M1 mini unless they're high spec, so software/websites are still built with that in mind.

salviati 2y ago

[Edit] Ok, I should have read better. i7-6800k is from intel and not from the stone age. --- Are you sure your 68000 machine had 32Gb of ram? If memory serves me well it was most likely 32 Mb. 68020 has a 32 bit address space, so the maximum RAM it can handle is 4Gb

bogantech 2y ago
They're talking about the i7-6800k https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/94189/intel-core-i76800k-processor-15m-cache-up-to-3-60-ghz/specifications.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/94189/i...
hot_gril 2y ago
Honestly I saw 6800k and thought it was the Motorola 6800.