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Safari content blockers are awful compared to UBlock and I’m a Safari user. Not only does YouTube either get through or cause weird issues, YouTube now blocks y
by basisword 2y ago
Safari content blockers are awful compared to UBlock and I’m a Safari user. Not only does YouTube either get through or cause weird issues, YouTube now blocks you until you completely disable the extension. Content blockers often block cookie banners too which can often result in broken functionality - a nightmare when you’re trying to buy tickets to something and have to “reload without blockers” for the website to work.
- gruez 2y ago>Not only does YouTube either get through or cause weird issues, YouTube now blocks you until you completely disable the extension Works fine on my machine. You might need to update your filter lists or try another content blocker app. >Content blockers often block cookie banners too which can often result in broken functionality - a nightmare when you’re trying to buy tickets to something and have to “reload without blockers” for the website to work. So don't enable the filter lists that try to block cookie banners?
- epiecs 2y agoCan you recommend a blocker? I have one (adblock pro), but I cant seem to find where to update the lists and sometimes YT does weird things :)
- gruez 2y agohttps://apps.apple.com/us/app/adguard-adblock-privacy/id1047223162 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/adguard-adblock-privacy/id1047... There's also a new extension that was posted on hn a few weeks that's free and claims to have scriptlets to block youtube ads as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43204406#43208085 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43204406#43208085
- dredmorbius 2y agoBypass the YT website entirely. You can perform video search through DuckDuckGo, Invidious, or Piped. The latter two are often blocked themselves, copy the video URL and feed to mpv to play through your preferred video player on the command-line: <https://mpv.io/ https://mpv.io/>
- dredmorbius 2y agoClarifying: Invidious/Piped video playback (and often the video webpage itself) may be blocked, even if the search pages work. Recent mpv / ytdl can almost always gain access. If you are blocked, check for updates to ytdl (which mpv typically uses for video/media downloading).
- derkster 2y agoYouTube has been playing a cat and mouse game, disabling some accounts until disabled, randomly re-enabling them. I personally think it's so when people talk about issues like this - people say "Well, it's been ok on my end". But it's definitely some kind of A/B testing.
- philistine 2y agoOh absolutely. YouTube will 100% try new ad blocking technology for only a specific strata.
- stavros 2y agoNit, but "stratum" is the singular.
- igilism 2y agoWhat blocker do you use? I don’t have these problems with AdGuard in Safari
- dbtc 2y agoMe too, but shhh.
- basisword 2y agoI’ve used Wipr for a long time. And Wipr 2. Will checkout AdGuard.
- philistine 2y ago1Blocker also gives me a good YouTube experience.
- wyclif 2y agoIn Safari, how is AdGuard better than AdBlock?
- wruza 2y agoApparently, it doesn’t have the described issues. I also use AdGuard on iOS/Safari and see only occasionally desperate ads. I expect ad networks to target this with mv3-hard methods now that it will become widespread, but up until now it just worked. Apple and google did everything for you to not know about it. It’s not the first thread where people either don’t know about it or will read but won’t try.
- wyclif 2y agoThe only time I use Safari is when the MBP is unplugged because it improves the battery life. I have the AdBlock extension but I'm looking for something better.
- jnathsf 2y agoSuggest using a service like NextDNS or Pi-hole for DYI ad blocking at the DNS/network level. I started with pi-hole but the hassle of updates and most importantly not having it available outside of my home network pushed me to a service like NextDNS which works on any network (5G, work, etc)
- gruez 2y agoIf you think manifest v3's adblocking is bad, DNS-based adblockers (eg. NextDNS or Pi-hole) is even worse. It can't do any filtering based on urls or elements, so any first party ads will be able to get through.
- eru 2y agoThough it might be a good second layer of defense.
- herbst 2y agoFirst party ads aren't evil usually tho. If someone builds their own ad infrastructure they might as well build it properly because they know it's going to be their fault if someone uploads something fishy. In my experience only the big ad networks let you post anything. Small specialized ad platforms usually have actual moderation. Edit:// by the way it wasn't that hard to get ads trough ublocks filters by self hosting them either. But that's rarely really evil and I never saw that abused.
- nikcub 2y agoto get any actual work done with DNS based blocking (ie. visiting Google ads, or their other dashboards) you quickly have to start whitelisting a ton of sites, which applies everywhere.
- genewitch 2y agoOkay. Step back a second. You're telling me you block ads, but have to unblock ads to view your ad sales? Is this in the DSM-V?
- nine_k 2y agoIf I go to buy something, I switch off ad blocking on that page, at the very least, on the checkout page. Ads can even be actually relevant there. If the page is too ad-ridden to tolerate, I may consider to just close that page, and go search for other options. I use Firefox + uBlock Origin, because going to the wide commercial internet without some form of ad blocking is like going out without an umbrella when it's raining heavily.
- neuralRiot 2y agoIf I go buy something and it requires me to disable my adblocker or my VPN I just look for another place to buy.
- wyclif 2y agoYep, I absolutely will not play these stupid games with retailers. If you want my business, don't expose me to malware.
- agiacalone 2y agoAd networks are a high traffic way to spread malware. I would never recommend disabling a blocker, especially on commerce sites.
- nine_k 2y agoUsually checkout pages don't have pesky ads galore, or any. But such a page usually has a ton of anti-bot scripts, such as captchas and other privacy-invading checks. Ad blockers usually block such stuff, for a good reason. But I don't mind it on a checkout page specifically though, because on a checkout page I wilfully disclose a ton of my private details, such as name, address, etc. Good checkout pages work well with an ad blocker on.
- adityeah 2y agoFirefox Focus' integration with Safari works well for ad blocking while general browsing.
- moi2388 2y agoThat’s nonsense. AdGuard + SponsorBlock. I almost exclusively use Safari and I havent seen a single ad in almost a decade
- themadturk 2y agoThat doesn't match my experience. I use 1Blocker and Purify on Safari and see very, very few ads.