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I blacklisted Chrome in dnf (the Fedora system update manager) once we hit near the last version to allow manifest v2, but apparently it wasn't enough. They re

I blacklisted Chrome in dnf (the Fedora system update manager) once we hit near the last version to allow manifest v2, but apparently it wasn't enough. They reached in to my system and deactivated/deleted my manifest v2 extensions anyway regardless, even though my version still "supports" them. I'm quite displeased to say the least. Ultimately it's probably for the best though as now my "slow fade" plan has to be accelerated. Time to rip the bandaid off.

tomrod 2y ago
Proton and Kagi have most of the services I've personally needed to de-Google. GCP is nicer than AWS, so will probably keep that around as a paying customer. Only thing I haven't found a great replacement yet for Google Docs (MS office is abysmal, but also lack of testing of alternatives so far :) ).
- haarolean 2y ago
  I love Kagi's Orion but it's still not good enough yet to switch off chrome completely. You realize this once you delve deeper, install extensions, and use it as your daily driver.
  - tomrod 2y ago
    Looking forward to their Linux port. I should have added FF/Vivaldi to the list.
  - averageRoyalty 2y ago
    I'm curious what you're missing. I don't use many extensions, but it's been my daily driver for a year now, with minimal complaints.
    - haarolean 2y ago
      1) There are a lot of bugs, for starters. I've been using it for many months but had to switch back to Chrome about a year ago due to some unbearable bugs like tabs freezing and sync kept bringing back long-gone tabs. Don't get me wrong, I've reported a dozen issues (I have 50+ started threads on orionfeedback forums), but anyway, I felt like I spent more time reporting bugs than actually doing my stuff. 2) Some needed extensions are broken. It's not like I need that many with weird APIs. Bitwarden has been broken for some time, and Grammarly is still broken (3 years in). I tried the latest version a few days ago given what's happening with chrome rn, there are some annoyances still. I like Orion (kudos to Kagi team for working on it) and want it to succeed, I believe it just needs more time, I guess.
      - averageRoyalty 2y ago
        Fair enough. I've never used Bitwarden or Grammarly. I used to have a lot of crashes, but they've improved in the last 6 months and I never had tabs freezing or ghost tabs, and I always have 300+ tabs open. Maybe our different use styles lead to different outcomes!
zelphirkalt 2y ago
Spyware doing malware things. I guess it is unexpected in this case, but in hindsight just confirming its malware character.
- tourist2d 2y ago
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tomrod 2y ago

Proton and Kagi have most of the services I've personally needed to de-Google. GCP is nicer than AWS, so will probably keep that around as a paying customer. Only thing I haven't found a great replacement yet for Google Docs (MS office is abysmal, but also lack of testing of alternatives so far :) ).

haarolean 2y ago
I love Kagi's Orion but it's still not good enough yet to switch off chrome completely. You realize this once you delve deeper, install extensions, and use it as your daily driver.
- tomrod 2y ago
  Looking forward to their Linux port. I should have added FF/Vivaldi to the list.
- averageRoyalty 2y ago
  I'm curious what you're missing. I don't use many extensions, but it's been my daily driver for a year now, with minimal complaints.
  - haarolean 2y ago
    1) There are a lot of bugs, for starters. I've been using it for many months but had to switch back to Chrome about a year ago due to some unbearable bugs like tabs freezing and sync kept bringing back long-gone tabs. Don't get me wrong, I've reported a dozen issues (I have 50+ started threads on orionfeedback forums), but anyway, I felt like I spent more time reporting bugs than actually doing my stuff. 2) Some needed extensions are broken. It's not like I need that many with weird APIs. Bitwarden has been broken for some time, and Grammarly is still broken (3 years in). I tried the latest version a few days ago given what's happening with chrome rn, there are some annoyances still. I like Orion (kudos to Kagi team for working on it) and want it to succeed, I believe it just needs more time, I guess.
    - averageRoyalty 2y ago
      Fair enough. I've never used Bitwarden or Grammarly. I used to have a lot of crashes, but they've improved in the last 6 months and I never had tabs freezing or ghost tabs, and I always have 300+ tabs open. Maybe our different use styles lead to different outcomes!

zelphirkalt 2y ago

Spyware doing malware things. I guess it is unexpected in this case, but in hindsight just confirming its malware character.

tourist2d 2y ago
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