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They're busy trying to pass a continuing resolution on Republican-only votes the keep the government open. Because heaven forbid both parties compromise.

by ethbr1 2y ago

vkou 2y ago
The compromise between fucking insanity and good governance is not agreeing to go half way into fucking insanity. Meeting an unreasonable person half-way is giving them a blank cheque to become more unreasonable. All it does is tell them that you're a sucker.
- ethbr1 2y ago
  Depends on what cards one is holding. Getting half of what one wants and not being driven off a cliff can be preferable to smiling in moral smugness while the car arcs through the air.
  - vkou 2y ago
    Past behavior of this administration strongly predicts that your reward for kowtowing to its value-compromising demands... Is becoming the target of further value-compromising demands. It doesn't engage in positive-sum games.
    - ethbr1 2y ago
      It doesn't have to. Strictly in terms of self-interest, sometimes compromise can be the optimal move.
      - ModernMech 2y ago
        If they're willing to self-harm for the cause, then the optimal move is to grab the wheel and yank it yourself to change direction and stop the car from careening off the cliff.
        vkou 2y ago
        Or at minimum, not gas it up.
  - mcphage 2y ago
    > smiling in moral smugness while the car arcs through the air Sorry, why is this metaphorical car arcing through the air again? What's that all about?
boroboro4 2y ago
I’m sorry there is only one party which is consistently doesn’t compromise at all. It’s a party of bullies and it’s a party which brought us here (and will bring us somewhere much worse). I’m afraid by now the only option forward don’t compromise with them at all, they understand only power.
JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> trying to pass a continuing resolution on Republican-only votes the keep the government open They can’t. They need Democrats in the Senate [1]. It should honestly fail without a provision defunding and deauthorising DOGE. [1] https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/03/10/congress/johnson-shutdown-schumer-congress-00220158 https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/03/10/congress/jo...
- jauntywundrkind 2y ago
  One of the big questions is what happens to all the money Congress has allocated? The budget keeps allocations the same, but now that for example Mark Rubio announced USAID is to be entirely eliminated, it's remaining 15% of programs moved into State Department, what happens to that money? https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-rubio-usaid-foreign-aid-bf442d62af67918a6fc5eee839074601 https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-rubio-usaid-foreign-ai... Expectations are that it's just treated as a giant slush fund for whatever the executive feels like. Whether Dems do anything to curb DOGE's chainsawing act or whether they try to wrestle with what happens to these "savings" is something Dems have a chance right now to tangle with, and much less leverage in the future. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/will-dems-pick-up-their-sword https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/will-dems-pick-up-their...

They're busy trying to pass a continuing resolution on Republican-only votes the keep the government open. Because heaven forbid both parties compromise.

by ethbr1 2y ago

They're busy trying to pass a continuing resolution on Republican-only votes the keep the government open. Because heaven forbid both parties compromise.

vkou 2y ago

The compromise between fucking insanity and good governance is not agreeing to go half way into fucking insanity. Meeting an unreasonable person half-way is giving them a blank cheque to become more unreasonable. All it does is tell them that you're a sucker.

ethbr1 2y ago
Depends on what cards one is holding. Getting half of what one wants and not being driven off a cliff can be preferable to smiling in moral smugness while the car arcs through the air.
- vkou 2y ago
  Past behavior of this administration strongly predicts that your reward for kowtowing to its value-compromising demands... Is becoming the target of further value-compromising demands. It doesn't engage in positive-sum games.
  - ethbr1 2y ago
    It doesn't have to. Strictly in terms of self-interest, sometimes compromise can be the optimal move.
    - ModernMech 2y ago
      If they're willing to self-harm for the cause, then the optimal move is to grab the wheel and yank it yourself to change direction and stop the car from careening off the cliff.
      - vkou 2y ago
        Or at minimum, not gas it up.
- mcphage 2y ago
  > smiling in moral smugness while the car arcs through the air Sorry, why is this metaphorical car arcing through the air again? What's that all about?

boroboro4 2y ago

I’m sorry there is only one party which is consistently doesn’t compromise at all. It’s a party of bullies and it’s a party which brought us here (and will bring us somewhere much worse). I’m afraid by now the only option forward don’t compromise with them at all, they understand only power.

JumpCrisscross 2y ago

> trying to pass a continuing resolution on Republican-only votes the keep the government open They can’t. They need Democrats in the Senate [1]. It should honestly fail without a provision defunding and deauthorising DOGE. [1] https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/03/10/congress/johnson-shutdown-schumer-congress-00220158 https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/03/10/congress/jo...

jauntywundrkind 2y ago
One of the big questions is what happens to all the money Congress has allocated? The budget keeps allocations the same, but now that for example Mark Rubio announced USAID is to be entirely eliminated, it's remaining 15% of programs moved into State Department, what happens to that money? https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-rubio-usaid-foreign-aid-bf442d62af67918a6fc5eee839074601 https://apnews.com/article/trump-musk-rubio-usaid-foreign-ai... Expectations are that it's just treated as a giant slush fund for whatever the executive feels like. Whether Dems do anything to curb DOGE's chainsawing act or whether they try to wrestle with what happens to these "savings" is something Dems have a chance right now to tangle with, and much less leverage in the future. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/will-dems-pick-up-their-sword https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/will-dems-pick-up-their...