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> The only thing more absurd is the fact that some people didn't see this coming. He signalled everything that he's doing now during his campaign, over and over

> The only thing more absurd is the fact that some people didn't see this coming. He signalled everything that he's doing now during his campaign, over and over. Right, I think it's less that they "didn't see it coming" and more so a basic lack of understanding around how anything works and a complete trust in perceived wealth and authority. The vast majority of people I know that fell into the camp of voting this into power follow a basic equational logic of "he is a (presumably) wealthy businessman he must know about how to manage money, therefore he can fix the economy" that's literally the entire depth to which they go. There's zero investigation into the validity of the premises, no question of the (ridiculous) assumption that governance must be exactly like running a business, no concern over the kind of business the person has background in... etc. I'm sure there are exceptions to this, but I'd also be confident conjecturing that, for a huge number of people, this basic, shallow, completely flawed argument is precisely why they made the choice that they made. That and a pervasive inability to recall what things were like a mere four or so years prior.

philk10 2y ago
and being fed a diet of propaganda from Fox, FB etc
H1Supreme 2y ago
I'm in an area of the country in which he won easily in the polls. Whenever I hear the "run the country like a business" line, I always ask "What's the product? And who is the customer?". I haven't received an actual answer yet.
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- jrs235 2y ago
  And how does it make a profit and what does it do with a profit? Perhaps ask if they think we should hire more LEOs to sit on the roads to write more traffic tickets to generate revenue to make profits to pay for more things including salaries and bonuses to our government officials... Like how businesses run (paying bonuses for being more profitable). What perverse incentives and outcomes might that lead to?
intended 2y ago
The core base is also given a flawed understanding of how anything around them works. America has been enduring under a self inflicted information and disinformation war for decades now. Some amount of swing voters may have done so because of inflation - but a large number of voters didn’t show up. There was also ample evidence that he was going to engage in trade wars. In November, I was already checking with friends in finance and banking what the amount of stress the global financial system could endure. This is very much like the 2008 crisis, in that low information consumers are being misled by corporations with massive teams, marketing and financial power. Its an uncompetitive market of ideas, being foisted on viewers and information consumers.

philk10 2y ago

and being fed a diet of propaganda from Fox, FB etc

H1Supreme 2y ago

I'm in an area of the country in which he won easily in the polls. Whenever I hear the "run the country like a business" line, I always ask "What's the product? And who is the customer?". I haven't received an actual answer yet.

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jrs235 2y ago
And how does it make a profit and what does it do with a profit? Perhaps ask if they think we should hire more LEOs to sit on the roads to write more traffic tickets to generate revenue to make profits to pay for more things including salaries and bonuses to our government officials... Like how businesses run (paying bonuses for being more profitable). What perverse incentives and outcomes might that lead to?

intended 2y ago

The core base is also given a flawed understanding of how anything around them works. America has been enduring under a self inflicted information and disinformation war for decades now. Some amount of swing voters may have done so because of inflation - but a large number of voters didn’t show up. There was also ample evidence that he was going to engage in trade wars. In November, I was already checking with friends in finance and banking what the amount of stress the global financial system could endure. This is very much like the 2008 crisis, in that low information consumers are being misled by corporations with massive teams, marketing and financial power. Its an uncompetitive market of ideas, being foisted on viewers and information consumers.