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In 2024 256 million PCs were sold but only 40 million of those were desktops. Excluding the fact that some PCs (hard to say a number but I'd be surprised if it
by oblio 2y ago
In 2024 256 million PCs were sold but only 40 million of those were desktops. Excluding the fact that some PCs (hard to say a number but I'd be surprised if it weren't over 40%) are office PCs with crappy GPUs, most laptops also have a bad, integrated GPU.
There's a chance that this year or the next one more GPUs will be sold for AI than for graphics.
- pjmlp 2y agoLaptops are also desktops, for all pratical purposes other than being able to swap components. There are plenty of games and graphics to play, all the way back to the Atari 2600, not everyone is playing the last version of Call of Duty, Cyberpunk, or whatever tops the AAA charts. In fact, those integrated GPUs are good enough for WebGL 2.0, which I still haven't seen much that can top mobile games graphics in the last 10 years (done with OpenGL ES), other than demoscene reels on shader competitions.
- oblio 2y agoI'm fairly sure OP was more concerned about modern GPUs being used as TPUs or whatever they're called, than about what graphics circuits the Atari 2600 was using.
- pjmlp 2y agoThere is wide range between Atari 2600 and what is on Steam that doesn't require an RTX 5090.
- oblio 2y agoThe entire thread was about GPU <<sales>>.
- pjmlp 2y agoExactly the point, you don't need to buy a RTX 5090 to play games, there are plenty of games around to chose from that don't require a RTX 5090. Not everyone is hunting GPUs for AI, other than hyperscalers. Additionally, maybe Linux users would be left out, everyone else is already migrating to NPUs, GPUs for AI is fighting the last war.
- oblio 2y agoEven mid range GPUs are proportionally much more expensive. I built a decent gaming PC with a GTX 760 10 years ago for about $900. These days you'd have to pay double for the same relative performance.
- pjmlp 2y agoAgain, there are plenty of games to chose from besides last generation AAA games. I guess some folks might suffer from FOMO, but that doesn't change the fact there are more games to play than most folks can achieve to finish during their lifetime, that aren't last generation AAA.
- somenameforme 2y agoThis seems commonly believed but isn't really accurate at all. For instance here [1] is a build to play Cyberpunk 2077 for less than $450 (low, 1080p, 50+ FPS). And that game is clunky, and that build is valuing price > performance. Add a couple hundred more and it'll run that game (or any other) like a beast. Also, especially in modern times, keep in mind how real inflation has been. That $900 PC from 10 years ago would be $1200+ today. [1] - https://www.xda-developers.com/cheapest-pc-to-play-cyberpunk-2077/ https://www.xda-developers.com/cheapest-pc-to-play-cyberpunk...