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I agree that what trump is doing is a threat to free speech, i really wish there was some kind of non partisan free speech faction in US politics but there does

I agree that what trump is doing is a threat to free speech, i really wish there was some kind of non partisan free speech faction in US politics but there doesn't seem to be. In any case, i'm replying to this post because you're apparently blind to your hubris. > Even if you don’t like the people being threatened and chilled right now, it will be you eventually." Maybe you should give yourself your own advice. You seemingly stood by doing nothing and even still think you're in a position make fun of people campaigning for free speech protections on social media (especially considering the fact that the government was indeed involved in censoring speech on these platforms). You literally already had the chance to stand up for people being threatened and chilled and not only actively chose not to, you stood in opposition to those people because you deemed it not "real" enough for you. You are not above anyone else nor are you in a position to lecture anyone else on this topic, ever.

matthewdgreen 2y ago
I deemed it real because I believed and still believe that private companies (even if I dislike them) have the right to moderate speech as they please. A big section of the right wing believes differently and passed laws in several states overriding that principle, while proclaiming that a direct and obvious violation of the First Amendment was actually “free speech.” I also believed and still believe that this fake free-speech posturing would lead directly to what’s happening now: direct governmental attacks on speech the administration doesn’t like. You may be a troll or so lost in politics that nothing reaches you anymore. But if you’re actually an American who cares about the bill of rights, the time to stand up has already arrived. It’s going to be hard for you to do so if you’re busy telling people “well, the government using police to target opponents is bad, but here’s this other thing that manifestly isn’t as bad and I am going to dismiss the former and dwell on the latter.”
- LightHugger 2y ago
  The government was moderating speech through those private companies, like twitter. Before musk bought it was literally taking government orders on what to censor, so your basic argument is not responding to what i already said. You come off as a dishonest, incoherent person and you're now saying i'm dismissing the thing i spent the first paragraph acknowledging, then calling me a troll. Wacky. Given you have now proven you have no interest in standing up for other people's free speech until it's you being threatened you will unfortunately find it hard to convince anyone. Even now you have no ability to admit you were wrong in the past to cheer other people's free speech rights being taken away. What a disappointment.

matthewdgreen 2y ago

I deemed it real because I believed and still believe that private companies (even if I dislike them) have the right to moderate speech as they please. A big section of the right wing believes differently and passed laws in several states overriding that principle, while proclaiming that a direct and obvious violation of the First Amendment was actually “free speech.” I also believed and still believe that this fake free-speech posturing would lead directly to what’s happening now: direct governmental attacks on speech the administration doesn’t like. You may be a troll or so lost in politics that nothing reaches you anymore. But if you’re actually an American who cares about the bill of rights, the time to stand up has already arrived. It’s going to be hard for you to do so if you’re busy telling people “well, the government using police to target opponents is bad, but here’s this other thing that manifestly isn’t as bad and I am going to dismiss the former and dwell on the latter.”

LightHugger 2y ago
The government was moderating speech through those private companies, like twitter. Before musk bought it was literally taking government orders on what to censor, so your basic argument is not responding to what i already said. You come off as a dishonest, incoherent person and you're now saying i'm dismissing the thing i spent the first paragraph acknowledging, then calling me a troll. Wacky. Given you have now proven you have no interest in standing up for other people's free speech until it's you being threatened you will unfortunately find it hard to convince anyone. Even now you have no ability to admit you were wrong in the past to cheer other people's free speech rights being taken away. What a disappointment.