5 ms·

Is this satire? Or do you truly believe the rest of the world is 230 years behind?

genewitch 2y ago
the plane this topic is about is 50 years old. the missile defense system that was protecting ukraine is 65 years old. We give everyone our junk after the US Marine Corps is done with it, and they get it 20+ years after the army, navy, and airforce consider them "obsolete". Yes, two hundred and thirty years to even compete with the US. Please note, this is if the US goes full isolationist, and pulls all military forces worldwide back to the US and US territorial waters. For example, people are talking about Rolls royce "reverse engineering" american engines, or the chinese. Another idea was using Saab planes. If saab planes are so great, why were they using american F-16s? these aren't my numbers, but my experience with linking the sources of my data isn't great on HN.
- namaria 2y ago
  If the US becomes isolationist, it's technological edge becomes irrelevant. The US pulling out of the World Order it builds and which underpins its massive wealth won't hurt anyone more than the US.
  - genewitch 2y ago
    As a US citizen, i'm fine with that.
    - namaria 2y ago
      You're fine with declining wealth?
      - toomuchtodo 2y ago
        Not OP, but yes. Who has most of it? Not I. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/a-visual-breakdown-of-who-owns-americas-wealth/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/a-visual-breakdown-of-who-o...
      - genewitch 2y ago
        yes, if it's because the US is isolationist. the "wealth" is made on the blood and backs of other people and that's fucked up.
        snowflakeandrey 2y ago
        I think the idea of free trade is that more wealth is made through comparative advantages and trade, meaning everyone contributes less "blood and backs" and gets more wealth in return [1]. Not sure how this applies to military assistance, but it seems likely Japan and EU would not have the peace dividend they've had since WW2 if US wasn't subsidizing their defense. 1. https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/ap-macroeconomics/basic-economics-concepts-macro/scarcity-and-growth/a/lesson-summary-comparative-advantage-and-gains-from-trade https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/ap-macr...

the plane this topic is about is 50 years old. the missile defense system that was protecting ukraine is 65 years old. We give everyone our junk after the US Marine Corps is done with it, and they get it 20+ years after the army, navy, and airforce consider them "obsolete". Yes, two hundred and thirty years to even compete with the US. Please note, this is if the US goes full isolationist, and pulls all military forces worldwide back to the US and US territorial waters. For example, people are talking about Rolls royce "reverse engineering" american engines, or the chinese. Another idea was using Saab planes. If saab planes are so great, why were they using american F-16s? these aren't my numbers, but my experience with linking the sources of my data isn't great on HN.

namaria 2y ago
If the US becomes isolationist, it's technological edge becomes irrelevant. The US pulling out of the World Order it builds and which underpins its massive wealth won't hurt anyone more than the US.
- genewitch 2y ago
  As a US citizen, i'm fine with that.
  - namaria 2y ago
    You're fine with declining wealth?
    - toomuchtodo 2y ago
      Not OP, but yes. Who has most of it? Not I. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/a-visual-breakdown-of-who-owns-americas-wealth/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/a-visual-breakdown-of-who-o...
    - genewitch 2y ago
      yes, if it's because the US is isolationist. the "wealth" is made on the blood and backs of other people and that's fucked up.
      - snowflakeandrey 2y ago
        I think the idea of free trade is that more wealth is made through comparative advantages and trade, meaning everyone contributes less "blood and backs" and gets more wealth in return [1]. Not sure how this applies to military assistance, but it seems likely Japan and EU would not have the peace dividend they've had since WW2 if US wasn't subsidizing their defense. 1. https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/ap-macroeconomics/basic-economics-concepts-macro/scarcity-and-growth/a/lesson-summary-comparative-advantage-and-gains-from-trade https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/ap-macr...