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It's not personal information, and it's not random people. It is the government email addresses of government employees, and yes, that should be public, as is t

It's not personal information, and it's not random people. It is the government email addresses of government employees, and yes, that should be public, as is the case for all other government employees at every level. If it were something personal like a home address or phone number, that would be different.

hu3 2y ago
Spamming random employees gov e-mails on the internet is a disservice to tax payers money to put it lightly. > that should be public, as is the case for all other government employees at every level. And I'll ask again: is there a law for that other than being able to request a FOIA?
- aestetix 2y ago
  > Spamming random employees gov e-mails on the internet is a disservice to tax payers money to put it lightly. They aren't random, they are DOGE employees. And at the moment, we don't even know what the role of DOGE is in the US government. Is Elon Musk a cabinet member, despite not being confirmed by the Senate? If DOGE exists solely as an advisory body, then why do they have the power to fire employees of other agencies (which have been ratified by Congress)? So rather than being upset about posting public email addresses of public employees, I would say the disservice to taxpayers is allowing an unelected agency to make decisions about other agencies with no Congressional oversight. As for "is there a law" I think this is implicit in the nature of representation. If you vote for someone to represent you, and after they are elected you have no way to contact them, how do they actually represent you? I'm not suggesting people should harass DOGE employees or say bad things to them, just that we need more transparency in general.
  - hu3 2y ago
    I get your point but posting e-mails on Twitter doesn't help. Even if in protest. It only fuels more polarization.
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doright 2y ago
I just looked this up. I feel like this should have been obvious to me before but Trump has a contact form and Obama has an official email address. Though they probably go through like 12 layers of indirection first.
- qingcharles 2y ago
  They are definitely read. I had a bad visit and was accused once of plotting to assassinate Clinton because someone I'd given an account to on a Linux box sent a very detailed manifesto to that email address. ~1996?

hu3 2y ago

Spamming random employees gov e-mails on the internet is a disservice to tax payers money to put it lightly. > that should be public, as is the case for all other government employees at every level. And I'll ask again: is there a law for that other than being able to request a FOIA?

aestetix 2y ago
> Spamming random employees gov e-mails on the internet is a disservice to tax payers money to put it lightly. They aren't random, they are DOGE employees. And at the moment, we don't even know what the role of DOGE is in the US government. Is Elon Musk a cabinet member, despite not being confirmed by the Senate? If DOGE exists solely as an advisory body, then why do they have the power to fire employees of other agencies (which have been ratified by Congress)? So rather than being upset about posting public email addresses of public employees, I would say the disservice to taxpayers is allowing an unelected agency to make decisions about other agencies with no Congressional oversight. As for "is there a law" I think this is implicit in the nature of representation. If you vote for someone to represent you, and after they are elected you have no way to contact them, how do they actually represent you? I'm not suggesting people should harass DOGE employees or say bad things to them, just that we need more transparency in general.
- hu3 2y ago
  I get your point but posting e-mails on Twitter doesn't help. Even if in protest. It only fuels more polarization.
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doright 2y ago

I just looked this up. I feel like this should have been obvious to me before but Trump has a contact form and Obama has an official email address. Though they probably go through like 12 layers of indirection first.

qingcharles 2y ago
They are definitely read. I had a bad visit and was accused once of plotting to assassinate Clinton because someone I'd given an account to on a Linux box sent a very detailed manifesto to that email address. ~1996?