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Is there a difference anyways between Russian and Muscovite? After all, Muscovites imposed their culture forcefully all over Russia as much as they could.

fifilura 2y ago
Not all of Russia. And I think it is a reminder to the people of Dagestan, Buratia, Altai, Bashkortorstan etc that they allow themselves to be taken advantage of and killed by a tribesman from the plains.
- paganel 2y ago
  The reactionary spirit among the Western technical elites never ceases to amaze me, it shouldn't by this point, but it still does.
  - fifilura 2y ago
    You may be right? It was written in anger.
    - rrr_oh_man 2y ago
      It takes a lot to admit one's missteps! Appreciate the gesture, as an innocent byreader
  - wqaatwt 2y ago
    It still seems very moderate compared to the fascist imperialist spirit amongst the elite (and majority of the overall population) of that other country..
    - paganel 2y ago
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      - fifilura 2y ago
        Hm, that seems like a false dichtonomy. Why could it not be both?
        paganel 2y ago
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        wqaatwt 2y ago
        Do you lack the general sense of time and can’t tell if we’re living in the 1940s or 2020s? Surely Russia can’t be imperialist wither because they defeated Napoleon back in 1813? (your “argument” makes about as much sense).
        riffraff 2y ago
        the Brits defeated Napoleon, and that's why there never was a British empire.
        wqaatwt 2y ago
        Well of course. They saved Europe from tyranny. It would be the definition of historical revisionism to claim they could do anything wrong after that. Also I wouldn’t say that Waterloo was more important than Leipzig or Napoleon’s trip to Moscow.
      - BartjeD 2y ago
        A lot changes in 80 years, and fascism and communism are both totalitarian ideologies.
        paganel 2y ago
        Communism gave my parents and (younger) me free Education, free Healthcare and very cheap Housing, I don't care about its supposed totalitarianism, I just want that back, can I?
- wave-function 2y ago
  This is precisely why I lost all respect for the West in the last couple of years and am now cheering on Putin's propaganda that is deepening divisions in your own societies. It's obvious you'd like nothing more than to carve up our country and destroy our culture — which the people of Siberia, Caucasus, and all other regions have significantly contributed to. But you know fuck all about that because your knowledge of Russia is based on news headlines. Now I really hope he's successful, so this will come back at you.
  - ipaddr 2y ago
    You held respect previously and this is what caused you to lose it? Or you never held respect and use whatever to feed you?

fifilura 2y ago

Not all of Russia. And I think it is a reminder to the people of Dagestan, Buratia, Altai, Bashkortorstan etc that they allow themselves to be taken advantage of and killed by a tribesman from the plains.

paganel 2y ago
The reactionary spirit among the Western technical elites never ceases to amaze me, it shouldn't by this point, but it still does.
- fifilura 2y ago
  You may be right? It was written in anger.
  - rrr_oh_man 2y ago
    It takes a lot to admit one's missteps! Appreciate the gesture, as an innocent byreader
- wqaatwt 2y ago
  It still seems very moderate compared to the fascist imperialist spirit amongst the elite (and majority of the overall population) of that other country..
  - paganel 2y ago
    [flagged]
    - fifilura 2y ago
      Hm, that seems like a false dichtonomy. Why could it not be both?
      - paganel 2y ago
        [flagged]
        wqaatwt 2y ago
        Do you lack the general sense of time and can’t tell if we’re living in the 1940s or 2020s? Surely Russia can’t be imperialist wither because they defeated Napoleon back in 1813? (your “argument” makes about as much sense).
        riffraff 2y ago
        the Brits defeated Napoleon, and that's why there never was a British empire.
        wqaatwt 2y ago
        Well of course. They saved Europe from tyranny. It would be the definition of historical revisionism to claim they could do anything wrong after that. Also I wouldn’t say that Waterloo was more important than Leipzig or Napoleon’s trip to Moscow.
    - BartjeD 2y ago
      A lot changes in 80 years, and fascism and communism are both totalitarian ideologies.
      - paganel 2y ago
        Communism gave my parents and (younger) me free Education, free Healthcare and very cheap Housing, I don't care about its supposed totalitarianism, I just want that back, can I?
wave-function 2y ago
This is precisely why I lost all respect for the West in the last couple of years and am now cheering on Putin's propaganda that is deepening divisions in your own societies. It's obvious you'd like nothing more than to carve up our country and destroy our culture — which the people of Siberia, Caucasus, and all other regions have significantly contributed to. But you know fuck all about that because your knowledge of Russia is based on news headlines. Now I really hope he's successful, so this will come back at you.
- ipaddr 2y ago
  You held respect previously and this is what caused you to lose it? Or you never held respect and use whatever to feed you?