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blindriver 2y ago
There is evidence that the group that Khalil headed did endorse Hamas and distributed pro-Hamas propaganda. Whether this news article is true or if it's propaganda remains to be seen. https://nypost.com/2025/03/09/us-news/ice-arrests-palestinian-leader-of-columbias-anti-israel-protests-lawyer/ https://nypost.com/2025/03/09/us-news/ice-arrests-palestinia... https://nypost.com/2025/03/09/us-news/who-is-mahmoud-khalil-the-columbia-university-agitator-detained-by-ice-for-deportation/ https://nypost.com/2025/03/09/us-news/who-is-mahmoud-khalil-...
- bhouston 2y ago
  > There is evidence that the group that Khalil headed did endorse Hamas and distributed pro-Hamas propaganda There is nothing in those articles that says he supported Hamas or that he distributed pro-Hamas propaganda.
  - blindriver 2y ago
    "He has remained active in recent disruptive protests, including last week’s takeover of the Milstein Library at Barnard College. Videos and photographs posted on X depict him holding a bullhorn near the library entrance and engaged in discussion with school administrators. That protest featured violent propaganda flyers that purportedly came directly from the “Hamas Media Office,” including one pamphlet titled “Our Narrative… Operation Al-Aqsa Flood,” which justified the Oct. 7, 2023 attack on Israel that killed 1,200 people — and in which women were repeatedly raped, whole families were executed and 251 hostages were taken to the Gaza Strip. Others at the Barnard library takeover passed around trading card-like photos of notorious Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, who was killed by an Israeli airstrike in Lebanon last September." "Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents aided a Columbia -owned apartment inhabited by Mahmoud Khalil, who fronts a radical group, Columbia United Apartheid Divest (CUAD), which sympathizes with terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and calls for the “end of Western Civilization.”" Whether or not this is true, I can't say at this point or if this is just propaganda. But at the very least it does say that his group sympathizes with terror groups and if that's true, then it makes him eligible for deportation.
    - bhouston 2y ago
      Huh? This just reinforces what I said. He isn’t accused of distributing pro-Hams propaganda or saying he supports them. At best you have unsubstantiated claims on X that someone distributed some images at an event he was also at. That isn’t very conclusive and likely won’t hold up in a normal court of law.
      - blindriver 2y ago
        He is the leader of a group that is being accused of endorsing Hamas and distributing pro-Hamas literature. If true, then him being the leader absolutely means he is responsible and should be held responsible. Unless you don't think that Trump should be held responsible for the actions of Musk. Obviously a newspaper article isn't enough evidence and even the veracity of the article remains in question, the assumption is that there will be actual evidence. If true, he should be deported. If false, then he deserves to go free. It's pretty cut and dry.
- threeseed 2y ago
  Let's be clear here because you're trying to muddy the waters. There is no evidence that Khalil endorsed Hamas or distributed pro-Hamas propaganda. Those articles are simply using the "guilt by association" tactic and it's disgraceful.
  - blindriver 2y ago
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    - space_fountain 2y ago
      I don’t think the article even was so bold as to say his organization distributed pro Hamas flyer. They say someone at the protest did and leave it to your inference that it was the org he leads
      - blindriver 2y ago
        If he didn't endorse Hamas or terrorist activities, he should not be deported.
        HideousKojima 2y ago
        He has still committed crimes by illegally occupying parts of the university.
- space_fountain 2y ago
  I have a pretty weak opinion of the nypost Lines like this certainly don’t help: > He’s been a regular fixture on news programs discussing the group’s disruptive efforts, including an interview on Quds News Network done completely in Arabic Why is it relevant that he did an interview in Arabic? Like seriously? As others have said the rest reads as just guilt by association. To be maximally fair to the other position it has made me reluctant to protest against Israel despite being broadly against them. There are too many people in that movement who are clearly racist, but it’s also unfortunate that pro Israeli forces campaign hard to conflate opposition to Israel with opposition to Jewish people

There is evidence that the group that Khalil headed did endorse Hamas and distributed pro-Hamas propaganda. Whether this news article is true or if it's propaganda remains to be seen. https://nypost.com/2025/03/09/us-news/ice-arrests-palestinian-leader-of-columbias-anti-israel-protests-lawyer/ https://nypost.com/2025/03/09/us-news/ice-arrests-palestinia... https://nypost.com/2025/03/09/us-news/who-is-mahmoud-khalil-the-columbia-university-agitator-detained-by-ice-for-deportation/ https://nypost.com/2025/03/09/us-news/who-is-mahmoud-khalil-...

bhouston 2y ago
> There is evidence that the group that Khalil headed did endorse Hamas and distributed pro-Hamas propaganda There is nothing in those articles that says he supported Hamas or that he distributed pro-Hamas propaganda.
- blindriver 2y ago
  "He has remained active in recent disruptive protests, including last week’s takeover of the Milstein Library at Barnard College. Videos and photographs posted on X depict him holding a bullhorn near the library entrance and engaged in discussion with school administrators. That protest featured violent propaganda flyers that purportedly came directly from the “Hamas Media Office,” including one pamphlet titled “Our Narrative… Operation Al-Aqsa Flood,” which justified the Oct. 7, 2023 attack on Israel that killed 1,200 people — and in which women were repeatedly raped, whole families were executed and 251 hostages were taken to the Gaza Strip. Others at the Barnard library takeover passed around trading card-like photos of notorious Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, who was killed by an Israeli airstrike in Lebanon last September." "Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents aided a Columbia -owned apartment inhabited by Mahmoud Khalil, who fronts a radical group, Columbia United Apartheid Divest (CUAD), which sympathizes with terror groups like Hamas and Hezbollah and calls for the “end of Western Civilization.”" Whether or not this is true, I can't say at this point or if this is just propaganda. But at the very least it does say that his group sympathizes with terror groups and if that's true, then it makes him eligible for deportation.
  - bhouston 2y ago
    Huh? This just reinforces what I said. He isn’t accused of distributing pro-Hams propaganda or saying he supports them. At best you have unsubstantiated claims on X that someone distributed some images at an event he was also at. That isn’t very conclusive and likely won’t hold up in a normal court of law.
    - blindriver 2y ago
      He is the leader of a group that is being accused of endorsing Hamas and distributing pro-Hamas literature. If true, then him being the leader absolutely means he is responsible and should be held responsible. Unless you don't think that Trump should be held responsible for the actions of Musk. Obviously a newspaper article isn't enough evidence and even the veracity of the article remains in question, the assumption is that there will be actual evidence. If true, he should be deported. If false, then he deserves to go free. It's pretty cut and dry.
threeseed 2y ago
Let's be clear here because you're trying to muddy the waters. There is no evidence that Khalil endorsed Hamas or distributed pro-Hamas propaganda. Those articles are simply using the "guilt by association" tactic and it's disgraceful.
- blindriver 2y ago
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  - space_fountain 2y ago
    I don’t think the article even was so bold as to say his organization distributed pro Hamas flyer. They say someone at the protest did and leave it to your inference that it was the org he leads
    - blindriver 2y ago
      If he didn't endorse Hamas or terrorist activities, he should not be deported.
      - HideousKojima 2y ago
        He has still committed crimes by illegally occupying parts of the university.
space_fountain 2y ago
I have a pretty weak opinion of the nypost Lines like this certainly don’t help: > He’s been a regular fixture on news programs discussing the group’s disruptive efforts, including an interview on Quds News Network done completely in Arabic Why is it relevant that he did an interview in Arabic? Like seriously? As others have said the rest reads as just guilt by association. To be maximally fair to the other position it has made me reluctant to protest against Israel despite being broadly against them. There are too many people in that movement who are clearly racist, but it’s also unfortunate that pro Israeli forces campaign hard to conflate opposition to Israel with opposition to Jewish people