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News coverage seems to suggest immigrants can be detained while moved to revoke their green cards are made, but it’s incredibly troubling that no one seems to k
by space_fountain 2y ago
News coverage seems to suggest immigrants can be detained while moved to revoke their green cards are made, but it’s incredibly troubling that no one seems to know what’s up, the government agents arresting him seemed to think he had a student visa and in general there is so little visibility
- jeffbee 2y agoTrump has stated that citizenship is now Calvinball, only he knows the rules. If they can disappear a permanent resident they can disappear you, too.
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- throwawaymaths 2y agoit kinda always was calvinball, we just had administrations less keen on pulling out the cruelest interpretation of the laws.
- jeffbee 2y agoYou're suggesting there was a previous administration that rounded up lawful permanent residents without court orders on US soil, on the charge that they committed forbidden speech?
- throwawaymaths 2y agoprevious administrations have done way worse clear all the way to fdr imprisoning citizens and wilson imprisoning debs.
- jeffbee 2y agoI don't recall anything FDR did that called the citizenship of anyone into question. Debs was tried and convicted by a court.
- kaycey2022 2y agoWasn't the internment of Japanese a thing back then?
- jeffbee 2y agoYes, but FDR's executive order allowed the military to order the exclusion of anyone from any place. The actual thing a person could be arrested for was passed unanimously by Congress to support the EO and enforced by courts. Even during a real national emergency, nobody was disappearing Japanese people without due process. Korematsu was arrested and tried and convicted and their conviction was upheld by courts of appeal and the Supreme Court. At the time FDR, Congress, the Court, and everybody else thought they were doing due process. There's a lot of daylight between that and what Trump is doing.
- throwawaymaths 2y ago> that makes it even MORE appalling, as all three branches were complicit in an egregious breach of the constitution Congress and SCOTUS are playing calvinball with the Constitution (and civil rights) too.
- throwawaymaths 2y ago> Debs was tried and convicted by a court. oh yes. and he broke a law passed by congress. that makes it even MORE appalling, as all three branches were complicit in an egregious breach of the constitution, not a single one stopped to hold the line