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I am quoting an obviously broken and severely traumatized person in power, in the context of ongoing and upcoming civic freedoms decline.

by rendx 2y ago

OgsyedIE 2y ago
There isn't enough evidence to speculate on his mental state IMO, but he is a prescribed ketamine user which means there are a plethora of possible causes.
- ranger_danger 2y ago
  I would argue there is quite an abundance of evidence that is very telling of his mental state.
- rendx 2y ago
  "Musk has fathered fourteen children, one of whom died as an infant. He had six children with his first wife, Canadian author Justine Wilson, who he met while attending Queen's University in Ontario, Canada; they married in 2000. In 2002, their first child Nevada Musk died of sudden infant death syndrome at the age of 10 weeks." "One of world’s richest man Elon Musk’s kids does not want to be related to their biological father anymore. Born a boy, Xavier Alexander Musk, has filed a plea seeking a change in her name in accordance with her new gender identity. Xavier had filed the petition seeking both a name change and a new birth certificate that reflects her new gender identity with the Los Angeles County Superior Court in Santa Monica in April 2022. The reason for the name change in the documents is mentioned as “Gender Identity and the fact that I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form.”" "Elon’s father Errol Musk fathered two children with his former stepdaughter, Jana Bezuidenhout, who is 41 years his junior." "n a recent podcast interview, Errol Musk said his son Elon had not “been a good dad” to his children." “He was such a terrible human being,” Elon, 46, told the magazine. “You have no idea.” Elon added: “My dad will have a carefully thought-out plan of evil… He will plan evil.” “You have no idea about how bad. Almost every crime you can possibly think of, he has done,” Elon said, though he never went into specifics about what his father allegedly did. “Almost every evil thing you could possibly think of, he has done… It’s so terrible, you can’t believe it.” “It would certainly be accurate to say that I did not have a good childhood… It may sound good. It was not absent of good, but it was not a happy childhood. It was like misery.” "One does see a mother turning the children against the father successfully. " "It's thought Grimes is keen to move in with the mothers of Musk's other children and raise them all together in one big house, however, most recently she's hit out at her billionaire ex publicly about his parenting. "Plz respond about our child's medical crisis. I am sorry to do this publicly but it is no longer acceptable to ignore this situation. This requires immediate attention", she wrote on X. "If you don't want to talk to me can you please designate or hire someone who can so that we can move forward on solving this. This is urgent, Elon.""
bhouston 2y ago
Okay, but on X/Twitter I regularly see people quoting this in a supportive fashion. So it isn't clear it is a joke.
- buzzerbetrayed 2y ago
  Nothing wrong with quoting it in a supportive fashion. It is an entirely reasonable take. Especially if you listen to the entire point he made, and not cherry pick the part that makes it sound bad (intentionally, of course) If you are letting “empathy” drive your civilization to ruin, it is no longer empathy. That is the point.
  - archagon 2y ago
    The claim that "empathy" is driving Western civilization to ruin is highly dubious and presented without evidence. In contrast, we know that lack of empathy directly leads to atrocities: > In my work with the defendants (at the Nuremberg Trails 1945-1949) I was searching for the nature of evil and I now think I have come close to defining it. A lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the defendants, a genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow men. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy. —Captain G. M. Gilbert
b112 2y ago
Huh? What about that quote seems anti-civil rights? He's not saying "Don't empathize". He's not saying "We shouldn't have empathy". He's saying "Empathy can be exploited, and used against you". Which is entirely valid. Balance is everything. Now I know many have issues with Musk right now. I'm scratching my head on a few things he's doing. But, this quote seems entirely reasonable.

I am quoting an obviously broken and severely traumatized person in power, in the context of ongoing and upcoming civic freedoms decline.

by rendx 2y ago

I am quoting an obviously broken and severely traumatized person in power, in the context of ongoing and upcoming civic freedoms decline.

OgsyedIE 2y ago

There isn't enough evidence to speculate on his mental state IMO, but he is a prescribed ketamine user which means there are a plethora of possible causes.

ranger_danger 2y ago
I would argue there is quite an abundance of evidence that is very telling of his mental state.
rendx 2y ago
"Musk has fathered fourteen children, one of whom died as an infant. He had six children with his first wife, Canadian author Justine Wilson, who he met while attending Queen's University in Ontario, Canada; they married in 2000. In 2002, their first child Nevada Musk died of sudden infant death syndrome at the age of 10 weeks." "One of world’s richest man Elon Musk’s kids does not want to be related to their biological father anymore. Born a boy, Xavier Alexander Musk, has filed a plea seeking a change in her name in accordance with her new gender identity. Xavier had filed the petition seeking both a name change and a new birth certificate that reflects her new gender identity with the Los Angeles County Superior Court in Santa Monica in April 2022. The reason for the name change in the documents is mentioned as “Gender Identity and the fact that I no longer live with or wish to be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form.”" "Elon’s father Errol Musk fathered two children with his former stepdaughter, Jana Bezuidenhout, who is 41 years his junior." "n a recent podcast interview, Errol Musk said his son Elon had not “been a good dad” to his children." “He was such a terrible human being,” Elon, 46, told the magazine. “You have no idea.” Elon added: “My dad will have a carefully thought-out plan of evil… He will plan evil.” “You have no idea about how bad. Almost every crime you can possibly think of, he has done,” Elon said, though he never went into specifics about what his father allegedly did. “Almost every evil thing you could possibly think of, he has done… It’s so terrible, you can’t believe it.” “It would certainly be accurate to say that I did not have a good childhood… It may sound good. It was not absent of good, but it was not a happy childhood. It was like misery.” "One does see a mother turning the children against the father successfully. " "It's thought Grimes is keen to move in with the mothers of Musk's other children and raise them all together in one big house, however, most recently she's hit out at her billionaire ex publicly about his parenting. "Plz respond about our child's medical crisis. I am sorry to do this publicly but it is no longer acceptable to ignore this situation. This requires immediate attention", she wrote on X. "If you don't want to talk to me can you please designate or hire someone who can so that we can move forward on solving this. This is urgent, Elon.""

bhouston 2y ago

Okay, but on X/Twitter I regularly see people quoting this in a supportive fashion. So it isn't clear it is a joke.

buzzerbetrayed 2y ago
Nothing wrong with quoting it in a supportive fashion. It is an entirely reasonable take. Especially if you listen to the entire point he made, and not cherry pick the part that makes it sound bad (intentionally, of course) If you are letting “empathy” drive your civilization to ruin, it is no longer empathy. That is the point.
- archagon 2y ago
  The claim that "empathy" is driving Western civilization to ruin is highly dubious and presented without evidence. In contrast, we know that lack of empathy directly leads to atrocities: > In my work with the defendants (at the Nuremberg Trails 1945-1949) I was searching for the nature of evil and I now think I have come close to defining it. A lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the defendants, a genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow men. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy. —Captain G. M. Gilbert

b112 2y ago

Huh? What about that quote seems anti-civil rights? He's not saying "Don't empathize". He's not saying "We shouldn't have empathy". He's saying "Empathy can be exploited, and used against you". Which is entirely valid. Balance is everything. Now I know many have issues with Musk right now. I'm scratching my head on a few things he's doing. But, this quote seems entirely reasonable.