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When can I start storing passwords in mine?

brianmaurer 2y ago
Sooner than you'd think! https://wyss.harvard.edu/technology/dna-data-storage/ https://wyss.harvard.edu/technology/dna-data-storage/ (though passwords aren't a great application)
- mkoubaa 2y ago
  Oh great when i get into old age not only will I forget my password but my DNA will have mutated to the point that it technically isn't my password any longer
  - brianmaurer 2y ago
    lol
Y_Y 2y ago
Might be a poor idea if anyone who can collect and sequence your DNA gets your passwords.
- egillie 2y ago
  All of my passwords are encoded in pi…somewhere
  - magneticnorth 2y ago
    Well, probably! But it hasn't actually been proven yet that pi is a "normal number" [0], though most mathematicians think it must be. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_number# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_number#
    - thaumasiotes 2y ago
      It's not necessary that pi be normal in order for it to contain every possible sequence. Sufficient, but not necessary.
    - chmod775 2y ago
      That's a stronger claim anyhow. We'd merely need Pi to be a rich number, ... which hasn't been proven either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disjunctive_sequence#Rich_numbers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disjunctive_sequence#Rich_numb...
    - Y_Y 2y ago
      If the OP is anything like me, then they have no trust in number theory researchers and deliberately choose passwords like "141592" so they can be sure
  - billforsternz 2y ago
    I enjoy thinking about this. Not only is a sequence of digits encoding the complete works of Shakespeare in there somewhere, it's in there again. And again, an infinite number of times.
    - Y_Y 2y ago
      In my encoding I represent the works of Shakespeare by the digit 0, anything else by the digit 1 followed by its ASCII representation.
- rolandog 2y ago
  Yeah, you'd be vulnerable to pepper shakers and divulging all your passwords in a sneeze.
almosthere 2y ago
Why do you have all those eyeballs on your arm? Oh, that... yeah, they said I had a lot of special characters in my LinkedIn password, and this is the best way to encode those.
- SlightlyLeftPad 2y ago
  They require at least one emoji and an uppercase character
- selcuka 2y ago
  - Your password has expired. You must choose a new one. - Uh, oh. How am I going to see behind me, then?
- ryao 2y ago
  You could likely store them in the junk DNA without much risk, as long as you avoid encoding sequences that are the start of coding regions. That said, if you managed to inject them into every cell of your body, this would be the biological equivalent of dropping pamphlets containing your passwords everywhere you go.
epistasis 2y ago
You can order DNA sequences from all sorts of companies. IDT is by far one of the most popular, using classical biochemical means: https://www.idtdna.com/pages/products/genes-and-gene-fragments/double-stranded-dna-fragments/gblocks-gene-fragments https://www.idtdna.com/pages/products/genes-and-gene-fragmen... https://www.idtdna.com/pages/products/custom-dna-rna/dna-oligos/custom-dna-oligos https://www.idtdna.com/pages/products/custom-dna-rna/dna-oli... And a newer player that uses tech from integrated circuit manufacturing (I think?) is Twist Biosciences: https://www.twistbioscience.com/twist-ordering-platform https://www.twistbioscience.com/twist-ordering-platform Retrieval of information has a bit of latency, however.

Sooner than you'd think! https://wyss.harvard.edu/technology/dna-data-storage/ https://wyss.harvard.edu/technology/dna-data-storage/ (though passwords aren't a great application)

mkoubaa 2y ago
Oh great when i get into old age not only will I forget my password but my DNA will have mutated to the point that it technically isn't my password any longer
- brianmaurer 2y ago
  lol

Y_Y 2y ago

Might be a poor idea if anyone who can collect and sequence your DNA gets your passwords.

egillie 2y ago
All of my passwords are encoded in pi…somewhere
- magneticnorth 2y ago
  Well, probably! But it hasn't actually been proven yet that pi is a "normal number" [0], though most mathematicians think it must be. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_number# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_number#
  - thaumasiotes 2y ago
    It's not necessary that pi be normal in order for it to contain every possible sequence. Sufficient, but not necessary.
  - chmod775 2y ago
    That's a stronger claim anyhow. We'd merely need Pi to be a rich number, ... which hasn't been proven either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disjunctive_sequence#Rich_numbers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disjunctive_sequence#Rich_numb...
  - Y_Y 2y ago
    If the OP is anything like me, then they have no trust in number theory researchers and deliberately choose passwords like "141592" so they can be sure
- billforsternz 2y ago
  I enjoy thinking about this. Not only is a sequence of digits encoding the complete works of Shakespeare in there somewhere, it's in there again. And again, an infinite number of times.
  - Y_Y 2y ago
    In my encoding I represent the works of Shakespeare by the digit 0, anything else by the digit 1 followed by its ASCII representation.
rolandog 2y ago
Yeah, you'd be vulnerable to pepper shakers and divulging all your passwords in a sneeze.

almosthere 2y ago

Why do you have all those eyeballs on your arm? Oh, that... yeah, they said I had a lot of special characters in my LinkedIn password, and this is the best way to encode those.

SlightlyLeftPad 2y ago
They require at least one emoji and an uppercase character
selcuka 2y ago
- Your password has expired. You must choose a new one. - Uh, oh. How am I going to see behind me, then?
ryao 2y ago
You could likely store them in the junk DNA without much risk, as long as you avoid encoding sequences that are the start of coding regions. That said, if you managed to inject them into every cell of your body, this would be the biological equivalent of dropping pamphlets containing your passwords everywhere you go.

epistasis 2y ago

You can order DNA sequences from all sorts of companies. IDT is by far one of the most popular, using classical biochemical means: https://www.idtdna.com/pages/products/genes-and-gene-fragments/double-stranded-dna-fragments/gblocks-gene-fragments https://www.idtdna.com/pages/products/genes-and-gene-fragmen... https://www.idtdna.com/pages/products/custom-dna-rna/dna-oligos/custom-dna-oligos https://www.idtdna.com/pages/products/custom-dna-rna/dna-oli... And a newer player that uses tech from integrated circuit manufacturing (I think?) is Twist Biosciences: https://www.twistbioscience.com/twist-ordering-platform https://www.twistbioscience.com/twist-ordering-platform Retrieval of information has a bit of latency, however.