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The actual premium beans are even more expensive. Yes at £20 per 350g I am paying slightly more than normal for "nice beans". But most places sell for no less

The actual premium beans are even more expensive. Yes at £20 per 350g I am paying slightly more than normal for "nice beans". But most places sell for no less than £10 per 250g of light roast. That's still 76p ($1) per shot. The only things going for less are darker roasts, supermarket coffee and blends.

OJFord 2y ago
Pact is £7.95/250g (or I think £8.95 to new customers) for the mid-tier (any roast) bags. House blend & premium tier are iirc £1 either side.
- Kirby64 2y ago
  250g bags are only 70% of the size of a 350g bag. Also, they don't seem to offer anything except blends. Their actual more expensive coffee (which even then, it's unclear if this is a blend or not) is 14 pounds a bag, which... when you scale to 350g comes out to, unsurprisingly, about 20 pounds.
  - OJFord 2y ago
    Comment I replied to said 'no less than £10 per 250g' so I don't know why you're dismissing my response of a specialist (if not high end) supplier at as low as £6.95 in that quantity as irrelevant somehow.
    - Kirby64 2y ago
      The comment you replied to spoke of 10 lbs per 250g for a light roast. I haven't tried Pact personally, but just reading their marketing copy, I don't really have confidence that what they call a 'light roast' is truly a light roast by specialty coffee standards. For context, a few signs I see: * The way they even describe the tasting notes don't generally align with coffee selected for light roast suitability. Dark chocolate is rarely a note you see in a light roast. * Every single bean is described as '<roast level> roast with hints of <tasting note>'. Also, maybe pricing is better in the UK locally... but their website appears to advertise only their cheapest generic blends at 10pounds/250g. Stepping up to anything else is 11 or 14 pounds per bag.
- Arch-TK 2y ago
  Pact isn't ultra high end. Its pretty middle (maybe a bit better) of the road as far as UK roasters go. Ultra high end would be Gesha or something equivalent. Those often go for fun prices like £28 (and that is still on the low end) for a 150g bag in the UK. That's £3.50 for a 19g shot, and if I was buying Gesha I would probably get a triple precision basket or a step down basket because I would want the absolute best chance of extracting well if I'm spending that much. My £1.10 shots are definitely above middle of the road. Maybe you can call them high end. But they're not ultra high end and a single shot of ultra high end is definitely a lot more than $.25 as the initial comment in this chain seems to claim.
  - criddell 2y ago
    Coffee from Okinawa would probably be my pick for ultra high end. It sells for about $2 / gram (or 250g for $490). These producers don’t make much coffee each year and it sells out very fast.
    - Arch-TK 2y ago
      I heard of that one, have never tried it. I've always wondered how much of that is just the fact that it's some tiny farm vs actually tasting unique. I am spoiled for choice, I've modded my machine to be able to do electronically controlled pressure and flow profiles. I wouldn't even have a clue how to dial this in quickly enough to enjoy it (other than relying on Gagné's adaptive profile). If/when I'm ever in Okinawa I might see if there's a local cafe which has already dialled it in and can brew it for me. I think that's probably the most cost effective way of trying this coffee.
  - apelapan 2y ago
    I just want to chime back in and say that the post I replied to said "nice beans" at £1/cup and the post that was a reply to talked about the cost of beans for a "standard espresso". My intended angle was to say that I think "nice beans" for a "standard espresso" starts lower than that, for the coffe-appreciating general public. People like me, who thinks a Starbucks espresso is nothing special but decent enough. Anything better is nice beans! :-)
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OJFord 2y ago

Pact is £7.95/250g (or I think £8.95 to new customers) for the mid-tier (any roast) bags. House blend & premium tier are iirc £1 either side.

Kirby64 2y ago
250g bags are only 70% of the size of a 350g bag. Also, they don't seem to offer anything except blends. Their actual more expensive coffee (which even then, it's unclear if this is a blend or not) is 14 pounds a bag, which... when you scale to 350g comes out to, unsurprisingly, about 20 pounds.
- OJFord 2y ago
  Comment I replied to said 'no less than £10 per 250g' so I don't know why you're dismissing my response of a specialist (if not high end) supplier at as low as £6.95 in that quantity as irrelevant somehow.
  - Kirby64 2y ago
    The comment you replied to spoke of 10 lbs per 250g for a light roast. I haven't tried Pact personally, but just reading their marketing copy, I don't really have confidence that what they call a 'light roast' is truly a light roast by specialty coffee standards. For context, a few signs I see: * The way they even describe the tasting notes don't generally align with coffee selected for light roast suitability. Dark chocolate is rarely a note you see in a light roast. * Every single bean is described as '<roast level> roast with hints of <tasting note>'. Also, maybe pricing is better in the UK locally... but their website appears to advertise only their cheapest generic blends at 10pounds/250g. Stepping up to anything else is 11 or 14 pounds per bag.
Arch-TK 2y ago
Pact isn't ultra high end. Its pretty middle (maybe a bit better) of the road as far as UK roasters go. Ultra high end would be Gesha or something equivalent. Those often go for fun prices like £28 (and that is still on the low end) for a 150g bag in the UK. That's £3.50 for a 19g shot, and if I was buying Gesha I would probably get a triple precision basket or a step down basket because I would want the absolute best chance of extracting well if I'm spending that much. My £1.10 shots are definitely above middle of the road. Maybe you can call them high end. But they're not ultra high end and a single shot of ultra high end is definitely a lot more than $.25 as the initial comment in this chain seems to claim.
- criddell 2y ago
  Coffee from Okinawa would probably be my pick for ultra high end. It sells for about $2 / gram (or 250g for $490). These producers don’t make much coffee each year and it sells out very fast.
  - Arch-TK 2y ago
    I heard of that one, have never tried it. I've always wondered how much of that is just the fact that it's some tiny farm vs actually tasting unique. I am spoiled for choice, I've modded my machine to be able to do electronically controlled pressure and flow profiles. I wouldn't even have a clue how to dial this in quickly enough to enjoy it (other than relying on Gagné's adaptive profile). If/when I'm ever in Okinawa I might see if there's a local cafe which has already dialled it in and can brew it for me. I think that's probably the most cost effective way of trying this coffee.
- apelapan 2y ago
  I just want to chime back in and say that the post I replied to said "nice beans" at £1/cup and the post that was a reply to talked about the cost of beans for a "standard espresso". My intended angle was to say that I think "nice beans" for a "standard espresso" starts lower than that, for the coffe-appreciating general public. People like me, who thinks a Starbucks espresso is nothing special but decent enough. Anything better is nice beans! :-)
- 2y ago