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Great, short article -- thanks for posting. I saw Richard Moore die Nov. 1, looking serenely at the ceiling as his lawyer, who became close to him while figh

by bbor 2y ago

Great, short article -- thanks for posting. I saw Richard Moore die Nov. 1, looking serenely at the ceiling as his lawyer, who became close to him while fighting for his life over a decade, wept... Also etched in my mind: Sigmon talking or mouthing toward his lawyer, trying to let him know he was OK before the hood went on. It literally sickens me that we've come so far yet have successfully seemed to extract the violence from capital punishment -- superficially, of course. There are certainly philosophical & political arguments for granting the state permission to murder captives, but I feel we should at the very least agree to not hide it; for our own sakes and those of our descendants, if nothing else. In this view, the firing squad is something of a macabre improvement. Really, it's the same way I feel about carnism: I'm not prepared to personally chastise someone for drawing a different line on when human pleasure outweighs the moral rights of animals, but you must acknowledge what you're doing. Again: failing to speak clearly about our moral choices is a dangerous, dangerous road.

0_____0 2y ago
100% agree. Killing is a violent act. If you are unable to look at your actions as they are, if you must paralyze a man so he does not yell and moan as he dies, you have lost the moral authority to take his life.
Levitating 2y ago
The whole case of Richard Moore is confusing to me. He apparently killed in self-defense, three jurors requested his sentenced be changed, and he was considered harmless and rehabilitated in prison. Mentoring inmates and helping guards keep peace. What good came from his death? https://apnews.com/article/south-carolina-execution-richard-moore-clemency-e3e74f9309ec23eab220d93b7b0dfc29 https://apnews.com/article/south-carolina-execution-richard-...
- tgv 2y ago
  That's very sad. What was he even guilty of? Or is the article that misleading?
duxup 2y ago
>failing to speak clearly about our moral choices is a dangerous, dangerous road. Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes By Stephen Colbert about Christianity and the US: "If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it."

by bbor 2y ago

0_____0 2y ago

100% agree. Killing is a violent act. If you are unable to look at your actions as they are, if you must paralyze a man so he does not yell and moan as he dies, you have lost the moral authority to take his life.

Levitating 2y ago

The whole case of Richard Moore is confusing to me. He apparently killed in self-defense, three jurors requested his sentenced be changed, and he was considered harmless and rehabilitated in prison. Mentoring inmates and helping guards keep peace. What good came from his death? https://apnews.com/article/south-carolina-execution-richard-moore-clemency-e3e74f9309ec23eab220d93b7b0dfc29 https://apnews.com/article/south-carolina-execution-richard-...

tgv 2y ago
That's very sad. What was he even guilty of? Or is the article that misleading?

duxup 2y ago

>failing to speak clearly about our moral choices is a dangerous, dangerous road. Reminds me of one of my favorite quotes By Stephen Colbert about Christianity and the US: "If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn't help the poor, either we have to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we've got to acknowledge that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition and then admit that we just don't want to do it."