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The closest I've seen to a class consciousness in America in recent times was the brief unity shown in response to the killing of Brian Thompson. People from b

by mft_ 2y ago

The closest I've seen to a class consciousness in America in recent times was the brief unity shown in response to the killing of Brian Thompson. People from both sides of the politcal spectrum who had suffered due to the Health Insurance industry didn't want to condemn what had happened, or outright supported it. I can fully understand how some people would be terrified by the current political divide being relaced by a genuine class divide. It would be very interesting to understand the chain of cause-and-effect that led to Reddit implmenting this policy, and directing it specifically (it seems) at posts related to Luigi.

trod1234 2y ago
> The closest I've seen to a class consiousness in America ... You are mistaken. You can no longer consider the vast majority of trending content on social media to be crafted by actual people. LLM has made sock puppetry and the accompanying distorted reflected appraisal, both cost effective at scale and ruinous. The cause of the policy change is an escalation of what naturally follows their exploitation of both the original unpaid moderators that left in the exodus as well as the unpaid volunteers who have left or were driven out leading to the Cooling Effect on Social Media. The moderators they have that remained are for the most part subverted, and have turned to Anaconda in the Chandelier-like strategies to rule their kingdom like their own personal feifdom driving the core elements that made the community valuable in the first place away. Reddit is starting to notice this too, because accounts are using the karma system in conjunction with large amounts of sock puppets are acting as sybil attack vectors where extreme content stays up, and they take a stock market hit every time the trusted news initiative brings it up on-air. Collectivism trends towards destruction every time its embraced by a large number of people. It may be slower or faster depending on certain things, but inevitably it comes up against an out-of-context problem couched in existential crisis that the members of such cannot recognize or foresee. The consequences vanish along with all those people, to the sands of time and chaos. Bronze-age collapse, Greece, Rome, etc. History is important, and when the ignorant in privileged positions take their flocks along for the ride, the destruction that follows is quite sinful and evil. The simple fact of the matter is, when the pillars of society fail and unwind, it falls back to a rule of violence and the natural world. This is well studied under social contract theory and aspects on the history of political economy. This isn't a political divide, its a ruinous cycle of spiraling madness where business thinks it wins, but they win so much that they destroy themselves and lose everything, and it was able to happen because necessity and urgency was decoupled from the funding, through money printing. There are several pillars to society, one of the pivotal ones is a rule of law which requires several components that themselves are interdependent, and which have objectively failed today. The purpose of law is non-violent conflict resolution. When you have it, violence isn't acceptable, when you don't it naturally happens as abuses become egregious. In such disadvantaged environments, it is about what one can or can't do, not whether it should or ought to happen. Natural law certainly doesn't follow Tolstoy's pacifism or nihilism except to extinction.

by mft_ 2y ago

trod1234 2y ago

> The closest I've seen to a class consiousness in America ... You are mistaken. You can no longer consider the vast majority of trending content on social media to be crafted by actual people. LLM has made sock puppetry and the accompanying distorted reflected appraisal, both cost effective at scale and ruinous. The cause of the policy change is an escalation of what naturally follows their exploitation of both the original unpaid moderators that left in the exodus as well as the unpaid volunteers who have left or were driven out leading to the Cooling Effect on Social Media. The moderators they have that remained are for the most part subverted, and have turned to Anaconda in the Chandelier-like strategies to rule their kingdom like their own personal feifdom driving the core elements that made the community valuable in the first place away. Reddit is starting to notice this too, because accounts are using the karma system in conjunction with large amounts of sock puppets are acting as sybil attack vectors where extreme content stays up, and they take a stock market hit every time the trusted news initiative brings it up on-air. Collectivism trends towards destruction every time its embraced by a large number of people. It may be slower or faster depending on certain things, but inevitably it comes up against an out-of-context problem couched in existential crisis that the members of such cannot recognize or foresee. The consequences vanish along with all those people, to the sands of time and chaos. Bronze-age collapse, Greece, Rome, etc. History is important, and when the ignorant in privileged positions take their flocks along for the ride, the destruction that follows is quite sinful and evil. The simple fact of the matter is, when the pillars of society fail and unwind, it falls back to a rule of violence and the natural world. This is well studied under social contract theory and aspects on the history of political economy. This isn't a political divide, its a ruinous cycle of spiraling madness where business thinks it wins, but they win so much that they destroy themselves and lose everything, and it was able to happen because necessity and urgency was decoupled from the funding, through money printing. There are several pillars to society, one of the pivotal ones is a rule of law which requires several components that themselves are interdependent, and which have objectively failed today. The purpose of law is non-violent conflict resolution. When you have it, violence isn't acceptable, when you don't it naturally happens as abuses become egregious. In such disadvantaged environments, it is about what one can or can't do, not whether it should or ought to happen. Natural law certainly doesn't follow Tolstoy's pacifism or nihilism except to extinction.