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The war is the genocide. Putin’s invasion would have killed thousands, maybe tens of thousands and been over in a week. Western involvement changed that into th
by goodluckchuck 2y ago
The war is the genocide. Putin’s invasion would have killed thousands, maybe tens of thousands and been over in a week. Western involvement changed that into the deaths of hundreds of thousands. What more effective means of self-genocide could Europe conceive? Germany cannot exactly round up a whole class of their own for slaughter again in their current political environment. The West (England, Germany, France, etc) caused WWI and WWII not Russia. Now we (America) should trust their vision to avoid WWIII? We should be clear who the problem is and stay out of it.
- bloopernova 2y agoUkraine remembers this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor For Ukraine to continue existing, the russians have to be driven out. Otherwise the genocide will continue. The genocide caused by russians, caused by russians invading Ukraine, caused by russians stealing Ukraine's children. In america's right wing trump followers, there is utter, sociopathic, monstrous indifference to Ukraine's suffering. So I'll ask you, personally: If the neighbouring state or country decided to invade and take over an area of your state, and you were told "you've been resisting too long, give in already and give up your fight", would you lay down and welcome the invaders you've been fighting? If you knew that the invaders were stealing children, and murdering whole towns?
- goodluckchuck 2y ago[flagged]
- throwaway48476 2y agoAs opposed to Russians in power which means death for Ukrainians?
- monkey_monkey 2y agoIf the West had just let Mr Hitler do what he wanted, so many deaths would have been avoided.
- userbinator 2y agoThe US didn't get involved until Pearl Harbor.
- nikcub 2y agoFDR bending the Neutrality Act to support France and Britain is an important part of WW2 history - he was doing it before the invasion of Poland. It's exactly what the Ukrainians are asking for - not troops, just weapons.
- throwaway48476 2y agoIf Woodrow Wilson hadn't drawn Europe's borders to cause conflict many deaths could have been avoided.
- AppleAtCha 2y agoThis is such incredibly twisted logic. I would have honestly been aghast to see this on HN a few years ago, but now the site seems nearly as infected as Facebook or X with this.
- artem2471 2y agoYou know buddy, I was there in Kyiv in that first week of invasion, and you know, the Western involvement was no where to be found, except for some infantry weapons (thanks for that). Again, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians joined the military with full understanding that Russia has more of everything, that foreign support may not come and so on.
- goodluckchuck 2y agoYes, the primary effect of the war has been to kill young European men, and both Russia and Ukraine… and now perhaps England and others are all too eager to see it happen.