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Well he’s been very vocal about NATO countries increasing their defense contributions. That doesn’t necessarily mean that the US needs to sell all the weapons.

mrighele 2y ago
"Trump Tells Europe to Buy American Arms to Keep NATO Strong". [1] "U.S. President Donald Trump complained Thursday that his country's decades-old security treaty with Japan is nonreciprocal, as he steps up pressure on allies to increase defense spending and buy more American products." [2] It's about buying more American weapons. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-13/trump-tells-europe-to-buy-american-weapons-to-keep-nato-strong https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-13/trump-tel... [2] https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2025/03/fd3521d51353-update1-trump-complains-security-pact-with-japan-nonreciprocal.html https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2025/03/fd3521d51353-upda...
- rocqua 2y ago
  We're not increasing defense spending to appease Trump though. We're increasing defense spending because we realize a need for strategic independence from the US. Because for the comming 4 years, it's obvious that the US won't be a reliable partner, and might even be an adversary. It makes no sense for us to buy American if we need strategic independence from the US.
- bhaak 2y ago
  > It's about buying more American weapons. He's an idiot if he really thinks that his actions will result in this. European defense stocks are going parabolic right now.
  - tim333 2y ago
    Yeah this turning of F16 support is really going to sell them.
  - monetus 2y ago
    He is indeed an idiot. Often more of an idiot than anyone else around.
ncruces 2y ago
And all everybody speaks of is expenditure, not capabilities. That alone should tell you what the goal is. Except it might backfire if Europe understandably decides it must buy European.
- martin_a 2y ago
  Yes, seems like things are already starting to take off: - Shares of Starlink’s European rival Eutelsat have tripled. CEO says it can do the job in Ukraine. [1] - Boost for German economy: Armaments sector picks up former car industry employees [2] [1] https://www.marketwatch.com/story/shares-of-starlinks-european-competitor-have-tripled-ceo-says-it-can-do-the-job-in-ukraine-f5e4e1ac https://www.marketwatch.com/story/shares-of-starlinks-europe... [2] (German only) https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Ruestungsbranche-sammelt-ehemalige-Autoindustrie-Mitarbeiter-ein-article25607764.html https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Ruestungsbranche-sammelt-ehem...
  - alienthrowaway 2y ago
    > Boost for German economy: Armaments sector picks up former car industry employees Why do I hear strains of "Spring time for Germany" playing in my head?
    - martin_a 2y ago
      Yesssss, I'd rather have those people working in renewable energy or some other future tech, but that industry was broken down as we all remember... So I guess we have to live with armaments for the moment. :-/

mrighele 2y ago

"Trump Tells Europe to Buy American Arms to Keep NATO Strong". [1] "U.S. President Donald Trump complained Thursday that his country's decades-old security treaty with Japan is nonreciprocal, as he steps up pressure on allies to increase defense spending and buy more American products." [2] It's about buying more American weapons. [1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-13/trump-tells-europe-to-buy-american-weapons-to-keep-nato-strong https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-13/trump-tel... [2] https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2025/03/fd3521d51353-update1-trump-complains-security-pact-with-japan-nonreciprocal.html https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2025/03/fd3521d51353-upda...

rocqua 2y ago
We're not increasing defense spending to appease Trump though. We're increasing defense spending because we realize a need for strategic independence from the US. Because for the comming 4 years, it's obvious that the US won't be a reliable partner, and might even be an adversary. It makes no sense for us to buy American if we need strategic independence from the US.
bhaak 2y ago
> It's about buying more American weapons. He's an idiot if he really thinks that his actions will result in this. European defense stocks are going parabolic right now.
- tim333 2y ago
  Yeah this turning of F16 support is really going to sell them.
- monetus 2y ago
  He is indeed an idiot. Often more of an idiot than anyone else around.

ncruces 2y ago

And all everybody speaks of is expenditure, not capabilities. That alone should tell you what the goal is. Except it might backfire if Europe understandably decides it must buy European.

martin_a 2y ago
Yes, seems like things are already starting to take off: - Shares of Starlink’s European rival Eutelsat have tripled. CEO says it can do the job in Ukraine. [1] - Boost for German economy: Armaments sector picks up former car industry employees [2] [1] https://www.marketwatch.com/story/shares-of-starlinks-european-competitor-have-tripled-ceo-says-it-can-do-the-job-in-ukraine-f5e4e1ac https://www.marketwatch.com/story/shares-of-starlinks-europe... [2] (German only) https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Ruestungsbranche-sammelt-ehemalige-Autoindustrie-Mitarbeiter-ein-article25607764.html https://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/Ruestungsbranche-sammelt-ehem...
- alienthrowaway 2y ago
  > Boost for German economy: Armaments sector picks up former car industry employees Why do I hear strains of "Spring time for Germany" playing in my head?
  - martin_a 2y ago
    Yesssss, I'd rather have those people working in renewable energy or some other future tech, but that industry was broken down as we all remember... So I guess we have to live with armaments for the moment. :-/