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The Danish air force is likely experiencing a buyers remorse about their batch of F35s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Danish_Air_Force https://en.m.wik
by sorokod 2y ago
The Danish air force is likely experiencing a buyers remorse about their batch of F35s.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Danish_Air_Force https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Danish_Air_Force
- Sammi 2y ago"27 in total ordered; 17 delivered as of January 2025; 11 in Denmark and 6 in Luke Air Force Base for training purposes as of January 2025" Project is so far along that Denmark is probably stuck with them.
- sorokod 2y agoIf, and that is a big if, the US would allow Denmark or any other of their "allies" to suspend their commitments to the US arms industry. "The weak are meat the strong do eat."
- soramimo 2y agoThey can probably sell them to Russia or China a few years down the road at the current trajectory.
- sidewndr46 2y agoRussia wouldn't know what to do with them, given that they effectively do not develop weapon systems after the collapse of the Soviet Union. China probably has decent enough espionage they don't really need them, although it might make a nice political overture.
- soramimo 2y agoAnd to clarify, this was a bit of a tongue in cheek comment implying that the US will become friendly enough with the two big autocracies of the world so they will officially buy arms from US defense companies (in which case Denmark can pass those F-35s to them). For the record, I dearly hope it doesn't come to this, but right now I'm not sure.
- timeon 2y agoRussia can just ask US at this point.
- ExoticPearTree 2y ago[flagged]
- forinti 2y agoRealistically, is there anything the Danes could do, except protest?
- acdha 2y agoEconomic sanctions alone would be enough - notice how Trump pauses shooting at our collective feet every time Wall Street reacts negatively? – but also note that our adventures in the Middle East failed after trillions of dollars because it’s much easier to blow things up than it is to build stable countries. A far less competent crew is not going to sway civilians more effectively and I doubt that they’re going to convince many Americans to personally help colonize Greenland.
- anabab 2y ago> conomic sanctions alone would be enough - notice how Trump pauses shooting at our collective feet every time Wall Street reacts negatively? He might not care about Wall Street and just act as a volatility generator powering insider trading.
- rocqua 2y agoI sure hope any US invasion for Greenland is met with a significant NATO force, not just the Danish.
- ExoticPearTree 2y agoLOL? The EU against the US? At sea?
- knubie 2y agoYes I'm sure the Danes are wishing they had purchased their fifth generation fighters from China or Russia instead.
- davikr 2y agoThe Chinese and Russian would certainly have provided continued support if they were on the other end of a conflict, differently from the Evil Bad American Empire.
- eitland 2y agoAlternatively they could have went with not 5 generation, but still extremely good Gripen. It's electronic warfare capabilities have reportedly surprised Nato pilots in exercises before.
- __loam 2y agoGripen has an American engine and uses American licensed missiles.
- xdennis 2y agoPresumably you can't brick an engine. The F-35 can be.
- eitland 2y agoCan probably also use other missiles but I agree we need to get rid of all US dependencies and I guess a lot of effort is going on now to see what can be done to get rid of the American engine. Maybe a cooperation with French (Safran) or British (Rolls Royce) industry could remove their reliance on the Americans? (Not suggesting overnight but over the next 2 - 7 years.)
- __loam 2y agoSnecma Gripen would be pretty sick.
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- spixy 2y agoCzech people also discuss it (F35s ordered in 2024, delivery estimated in 2031-2035).