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I'm wondering if the deal with Trump and Russia is just favours like they find investors for his questionable businesses and he helps them or if they do have ko

by tim333 2y ago

I'm wondering if the deal with Trump and Russia is just favours like they find investors for his questionable businesses and he helps them or if they do have kompromat? Apparently in the days they were entertaining him in Moscow it was quite common to provide hookers and film things and given Trump's character it may not have been that hard to get him to go along. He always looks rather embarrassed with Putin. Also it could explain this stuff which is hard otherwise.

icegreentea2 2y ago
I honestly think Trump is just impressed by Putin. Like he loves the power that Putin wields and likes and wants that. Trump has consistently expressed his admiration of unconstrained power in all forms. It's not just a Putin thing, though I think there is a little extra going on with Putin. Otherwise, I think what Trump has said about Ukraine is more or less what he believes and wants. He wants there to be peace, quickly, so that he can be known as a peace maker. He wants to be known as the person who can do the undoable. His henchmen repeat it endlessly - "only Donald Trump could bring peace here". He does not care about the details for Ukraine, and he doesn't really care about the details for Europe - he's wanted to cut loose from Europe since the first term. In addition, there's probably quite a lot of personal apathy towards Zelensky specifically. Finally it's possible that his China hawks are also shaping his base tendencies to try to deliver a Russia-China split. But I don't think that Trump really believes in that, it's just the people in his admin trying to make something of this situation. And I don't really believe that even a peace favourable to Putin can deliver the type of split that the China hawks might dream of, at least within this term.
devsda 2y ago
"Trump is an alien impersonator trying to destroy humanity from within to make it easier for the aliens to colonize earth" That is also a probable explanation for what's happening, if you believe in UFOs and aliens. Sorry, I mean no disrespect. As a non-american and non-westerner, it's absolutely wild to see what people are willing to believe when it comes to Trump. Surely, there's a more rational and simple explanation for what's going on ?
- kragen 2y ago
  Perhaps you have thought of one? If so, the rest of us are dying to hear it.
  - devsda 2y ago
    It doesn't matter what I think or believe. What matters and what we know is that nearly half of America's electorate does not think that these allegations have any merits. The rest are free to believe or speculate whatever they want to.
    - kragen 2y ago
      What matters more is what's actually true.
  - jbm 2y ago
    My personal farfetched alternative theory is the "Earth X" theory. Earth X was a comic (lol) with one interesting idea — if enough people preceive "A" as "B", "A" becomes "B". In the case of Trump, he despises the left wing camp for kicking him off Twitter and prosecuting him. As such he takes their nightmares that they believed in term one and makes them real as personal revenge. For an old man, it is no doubt the most satisfying possible end of his life possible. Far fetched but more realistic than "He's being blackmailed". Do you really believe the man has any shame?
    - kragen 2y ago
      Yes, the 34 felony counts against Trump proven in court beyond a reasonable doubt were about falsifying business records to pay hush money to pron star Stormy Daniels over their sex affair: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels%E2%80%93Donald_Trump_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels%E2%80%93Donal... If he had no shame, he would have kept the money.
      - monetus 2y ago

by tim333 2y ago

icegreentea2 2y ago

I honestly think Trump is just impressed by Putin. Like he loves the power that Putin wields and likes and wants that. Trump has consistently expressed his admiration of unconstrained power in all forms. It's not just a Putin thing, though I think there is a little extra going on with Putin. Otherwise, I think what Trump has said about Ukraine is more or less what he believes and wants. He wants there to be peace, quickly, so that he can be known as a peace maker. He wants to be known as the person who can do the undoable. His henchmen repeat it endlessly - "only Donald Trump could bring peace here". He does not care about the details for Ukraine, and he doesn't really care about the details for Europe - he's wanted to cut loose from Europe since the first term. In addition, there's probably quite a lot of personal apathy towards Zelensky specifically. Finally it's possible that his China hawks are also shaping his base tendencies to try to deliver a Russia-China split. But I don't think that Trump really believes in that, it's just the people in his admin trying to make something of this situation. And I don't really believe that even a peace favourable to Putin can deliver the type of split that the China hawks might dream of, at least within this term.

devsda 2y ago

"Trump is an alien impersonator trying to destroy humanity from within to make it easier for the aliens to colonize earth" That is also a probable explanation for what's happening, if you believe in UFOs and aliens. Sorry, I mean no disrespect. As a non-american and non-westerner, it's absolutely wild to see what people are willing to believe when it comes to Trump. Surely, there's a more rational and simple explanation for what's going on ?

kragen 2y ago
Perhaps you have thought of one? If so, the rest of us are dying to hear it.
- devsda 2y ago
  It doesn't matter what I think or believe. What matters and what we know is that nearly half of America's electorate does not think that these allegations have any merits. The rest are free to believe or speculate whatever they want to.
  - kragen 2y ago
    What matters more is what's actually true.
- jbm 2y ago
  My personal farfetched alternative theory is the "Earth X" theory. Earth X was a comic (lol) with one interesting idea — if enough people preceive "A" as "B", "A" becomes "B". In the case of Trump, he despises the left wing camp for kicking him off Twitter and prosecuting him. As such he takes their nightmares that they believed in term one and makes them real as personal revenge. For an old man, it is no doubt the most satisfying possible end of his life possible. Far fetched but more realistic than "He's being blackmailed". Do you really believe the man has any shame?
  - kragen 2y ago
    Yes, the 34 felony counts against Trump proven in court beyond a reasonable doubt were about falsifying business records to pay hush money to pron star Stormy Daniels over their sex affair: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels%E2%80%93Donald_Trump_scandal https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Daniels%E2%80%93Donal... If he had no shame, he would have kept the money.
    - monetus 2y ago