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> -Had Zelensky have agreed to end the war at the Istanbul meetings of April 2022, the war could have ended after only two months, and eventually Russian troops

> -Had Zelensky have agreed to end the war at the Istanbul meetings of April 2022, the war could have ended after only two months, and eventually Russian troops would have fully withdrawn back to the pre-war lines. > If Zelensky tries to prevent Trump from reaching an end-of-war deal with Putin, the Russian army is likely to keep fighting until it takes by force of arms what Putin thinks he needs to secure his western border. Which one is it? How can Russia be, in the same analysis, a country fighting for survival, that would surely withdraw from this fight for survival if papers to that effect were signed, and capable of overrunning a whole sovereign nation out of spite? This analysis is at best a mash up of Kremlin's talking points and wishful thinking. How can nations seeking protection against an imperialistic, bloodthirsty country that has shown repeatedly it will commit war crimes on a massive scale in the name of securing more geopolitical power be declared in the end culpable for that aggression on the basis of seeking protection against it? No one had any problems with Zelensky's "attitude" until Trump told them to, and his followers turned on a dime as usual to comply with the new decree.

thisislife2 2y ago
Or rather, the western media was so full of anti-Russian / pro-Ukranian propaganda that most of you are just ignorant of the other side of the debate. If you turn off your political biases and zeal, and read the article again, you will realise that the author is actually talking Realpolitik that is in the interest of the Ukraine. It's all good and well to shout out about right and wrong, good and evil in politics, but is it morally defensible asking the Ukranians to fight the "good fight" on your behalf, as long as you personally don't suffer the consequences for it? Let us ignore superpower politics, and, for the sake of this argument, believe that the west is supporting Ukraine in good-faith. The west trained Ukrainian soldiers and armed them to resist the Russian invasion. That was a positive step. The Ukranians are fighting bravely. They had some initial success too. Great. That was 2+ years ago. What has happened since? Is Ukraine winning the war? The answer is no - one counter-offensive it launched has already failed. Till date, Ukraine has lost around 20% of its territory and more than 100,000+ soldiers. It is continuing to lose territory and soldiers. The simple fact is that Ukraine's military is losing because it is no match against Russia's larger military. The military arithmetic is simple - what Ukraine needs today is not just more arms, but most importantly more soldiers. Is any western country willing to commit soldiers today, to fight alongside the Ukranians? The hard truth is no. And yet, the west (currently EU only) wants Ukraine to keep fighting. That's not some speculative opinion. This is what Germany's intelligent chief recently said: - Ukraine needs to fight the Russians till 2030 - https://nordot.app/1271064963068608531 https://nordot.app/1271064963068608531 !! Wow! Please tell me - How much more territory should Ukraine lose, and how many more Ukranians need to die, till you accept the reality that Ukraine cannot win alone against Russia? (The stark reality of the matter is that those of you asking Ukraine to fight Russia alone, to the last Ukranian, are nothing but cowards.)

thisislife2 2y ago

Or rather, the western media was so full of anti-Russian / pro-Ukranian propaganda that most of you are just ignorant of the other side of the debate. If you turn off your political biases and zeal, and read the article again, you will realise that the author is actually talking Realpolitik that is in the interest of the Ukraine. It's all good and well to shout out about right and wrong, good and evil in politics, but is it morally defensible asking the Ukranians to fight the "good fight" on your behalf, as long as you personally don't suffer the consequences for it? Let us ignore superpower politics, and, for the sake of this argument, believe that the west is supporting Ukraine in good-faith. The west trained Ukrainian soldiers and armed them to resist the Russian invasion. That was a positive step. The Ukranians are fighting bravely. They had some initial success too. Great. That was 2+ years ago. What has happened since? Is Ukraine winning the war? The answer is no - one counter-offensive it launched has already failed. Till date, Ukraine has lost around 20% of its territory and more than 100,000+ soldiers. It is continuing to lose territory and soldiers. The simple fact is that Ukraine's military is losing because it is no match against Russia's larger military. The military arithmetic is simple - what Ukraine needs today is not just more arms, but most importantly more soldiers. Is any western country willing to commit soldiers today, to fight alongside the Ukranians? The hard truth is no. And yet, the west (currently EU only) wants Ukraine to keep fighting. That's not some speculative opinion. This is what Germany's intelligent chief recently said: - Ukraine needs to fight the Russians till 2030 - https://nordot.app/1271064963068608531 https://nordot.app/1271064963068608531 !! Wow! Please tell me - How much more territory should Ukraine lose, and how many more Ukranians need to die, till you accept the reality that Ukraine cannot win alone against Russia? (The stark reality of the matter is that those of you asking Ukraine to fight Russia alone, to the last Ukranian, are nothing but cowards.)