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Magnesium — cheap & plain-as-possible magnesium pills — are a great laxative. I suspect that this has follow-on psychological effects. All the expensive pills a

Magnesium — cheap & plain-as-possible magnesium pills — are a great laxative. I suspect that this has follow-on psychological effects. All the expensive pills are just to avoid the laxative effect. No further benefit. So if you think a good dump contributes to your wellbeing, consider the plain stuff.

beagle3 2y ago
There is no such thing as “plain”. You can’t eat pure magnesium. mg oxide is cheap, but apparently mostly laxative. Mg citrate is part laxative but also absorbed. Mg glycinate is more expensive but avoids the laxative effect. For the muscle relaxant effect (other than perhaps bowel muscles), mg oxide is hardly useful.
- dr_dshiv 2y ago
  > For the muscle relaxant effect (other than perhaps bowel muscles), mg oxide is hardly useful. This is what I’m questioning. Most of these variants are claiming subtler psychological effects — when the basic stuff has a very direct effect that I think is positive. I always just buy the magnesium pills that just say “magnesium.”
  - mint2 2y ago
    Well please read things more carefully in the future. No one sells pills of pure magnesium - that would be eating metal shavings or metal beads. It is ALWAYS a magnesium ion paired with an anion of some sort. Is that what you mean? Ones with only magnesium salt or oxide - I.e citrate, carbonate etc
  - sidewndr46 2y ago
    As others have illustrated no one sells "magnesium" pills. It is a pill of magnesium reacted with something else. The source of this varies as to whether or not the product wants to be considered as vegetarian, kosher, or otherwise.
xattt 2y ago
> avoid the laxative effect Why not consider that it might alter the gut flora?
cyrillite 2y ago
Ah. I just checked a formulation for my old supplements v my new ones. I see increased magnesium. This was helpful
qwerty456127 2y ago
> All the expensive pills are just to avoid the laxative effect. No further benefit. Different substances may have seriously different subjective (e.g. on mood, sleep) effect in at least some people (e.g. me). I may be a good idea to try bisglycinate, orotate, threanate to check whether some of them act the way you like.
- colordrops 2y ago
  Theonate gives scary NDE style dreams/out of body experiences. It is supposedly a nanoparticle formulation that crosses the blood brain barrier. Makes me wonder about safety.
  - justinator 2y ago
    When I started Mag, I had the most incredible psychotic dreams -- didn't matter the type for me. They've gone away unfortunately.
    - qwerty456127 2y ago
      There are many substances (including legal and easily available) which can cause vivid and weird dreams. For example you can try apple juice and St. John's wort.
      - justinator 2y ago
        That's nice.
  - qwerty456127 2y ago
    > Theonate gives scary NDE style dreams Not to me, gives me a full night of deep uninterrupted sleep instead. > out of body experiences I would pay thousands of dollars for a pill which would give me an out of body experience. To me it seems among the most important things to have experienced before you die.
    - 2y ago

beagle3 2y ago

There is no such thing as “plain”. You can’t eat pure magnesium. mg oxide is cheap, but apparently mostly laxative. Mg citrate is part laxative but also absorbed. Mg glycinate is more expensive but avoids the laxative effect. For the muscle relaxant effect (other than perhaps bowel muscles), mg oxide is hardly useful.

dr_dshiv 2y ago
> For the muscle relaxant effect (other than perhaps bowel muscles), mg oxide is hardly useful. This is what I’m questioning. Most of these variants are claiming subtler psychological effects — when the basic stuff has a very direct effect that I think is positive. I always just buy the magnesium pills that just say “magnesium.”
- mint2 2y ago
  Well please read things more carefully in the future. No one sells pills of pure magnesium - that would be eating metal shavings or metal beads. It is ALWAYS a magnesium ion paired with an anion of some sort. Is that what you mean? Ones with only magnesium salt or oxide - I.e citrate, carbonate etc
- sidewndr46 2y ago
  As others have illustrated no one sells "magnesium" pills. It is a pill of magnesium reacted with something else. The source of this varies as to whether or not the product wants to be considered as vegetarian, kosher, or otherwise.

xattt 2y ago

> avoid the laxative effect Why not consider that it might alter the gut flora?

cyrillite 2y ago

Ah. I just checked a formulation for my old supplements v my new ones. I see increased magnesium. This was helpful

qwerty456127 2y ago

> All the expensive pills are just to avoid the laxative effect. No further benefit. Different substances may have seriously different subjective (e.g. on mood, sleep) effect in at least some people (e.g. me). I may be a good idea to try bisglycinate, orotate, threanate to check whether some of them act the way you like.

colordrops 2y ago
Theonate gives scary NDE style dreams/out of body experiences. It is supposedly a nanoparticle formulation that crosses the blood brain barrier. Makes me wonder about safety.
- justinator 2y ago
  When I started Mag, I had the most incredible psychotic dreams -- didn't matter the type for me. They've gone away unfortunately.
  - qwerty456127 2y ago
    There are many substances (including legal and easily available) which can cause vivid and weird dreams. For example you can try apple juice and St. John's wort.
    - justinator 2y ago
      That's nice.
- qwerty456127 2y ago
  > Theonate gives scary NDE style dreams Not to me, gives me a full night of deep uninterrupted sleep instead. > out of body experiences I would pay thousands of dollars for a pill which would give me an out of body experience. To me it seems among the most important things to have experienced before you die.
  - 2y ago