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Trump released a statement on Truth Social saying: “All Federal Funding will STOP for any College, School, or University that allows illegal protests.” What is

Trump released a statement on Truth Social saying: “All Federal Funding will STOP for any College, School, or University that allows illegal protests.” What is an "illegal protest"? Do we have a 1st amendment or not? JD Vance went to Europe and chided them for not allowing free speech. This is not about antisemitism at all, this is after all an antisemitic president [1], this is about political payback for those who didn't support him. Many schools have paused hiring and reduced the number of doctoral students admitted in response to the financial uncertainty. [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/17/trump-history-antisemitic-tropes/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/17/trump-his...

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
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- breadwinner 2y ago
  That doesn't fit the definition of protest, that's harassment. The former is protected by 1st amendment, the latter is not. It is important to use the right words.
  - db48x 2y ago
    The people who commit the harassment and assaults call it a protest in order to shield themselves from the consequences of their actions. Their actions are illegal, and you cannot make them use the correct words, so it’s an illegal protest.
- jltsiren 2y ago
  I would classify occupying buildings and shared areas as a technically illegal but often legitimate form of protest. Many spaces, which are in principle owned or controlled by a specific entity, are functionally indistinguishable from public spaces. Protesting in them should be allowed under the same conditions as in public spaces. Which should mean that permits are not required, but the protesters are expected to cooperate with the authorities. And that the authorities should strive to find a good balance between the freedom of speech of the protesters and the disruption caused to bystanders. Besides, students occupying university buildings for random reasons is just business as usual. It's something that should be expected when you have institutions with a large number of young ambitious people with minimal supervision.
jethronethro 2y ago
> What is an "illegal protest"? A protest that the sitting president doesn't agree with.
- HarryHirsch 2y ago
  Carl Schmitt would agree, or maybe Helmut Schmidt, too, when he was Mayor of Hamburg in 1962: "We didn't refer to the Constitution much, in those days"
readyplayernull 2y ago
> What is an "illegal protest"? Do we have a 1st amendment or not? They are living in the future, more specifically in April 20: https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/insurrection-act-president-trump-20201819.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/insurr...

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

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breadwinner 2y ago
That doesn't fit the definition of protest, that's harassment. The former is protected by 1st amendment, the latter is not. It is important to use the right words.
- db48x 2y ago
  The people who commit the harassment and assaults call it a protest in order to shield themselves from the consequences of their actions. Their actions are illegal, and you cannot make them use the correct words, so it’s an illegal protest.
jltsiren 2y ago
I would classify occupying buildings and shared areas as a technically illegal but often legitimate form of protest. Many spaces, which are in principle owned or controlled by a specific entity, are functionally indistinguishable from public spaces. Protesting in them should be allowed under the same conditions as in public spaces. Which should mean that permits are not required, but the protesters are expected to cooperate with the authorities. And that the authorities should strive to find a good balance between the freedom of speech of the protesters and the disruption caused to bystanders. Besides, students occupying university buildings for random reasons is just business as usual. It's something that should be expected when you have institutions with a large number of young ambitious people with minimal supervision.

jethronethro 2y ago

> What is an "illegal protest"? A protest that the sitting president doesn't agree with.

HarryHirsch 2y ago
Carl Schmitt would agree, or maybe Helmut Schmidt, too, when he was Mayor of Hamburg in 1962: "We didn't refer to the Constitution much, in those days"

readyplayernull 2y ago

> What is an "illegal protest"? Do we have a 1st amendment or not? They are living in the future, more specifically in April 20: https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/insurrection-act-president-trump-20201819.php https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/openforum/article/insurr...