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Hmm. Well, I for one, my spouse for another, LOVE the time shifts—especially the one in the springtime. It is hard for me (us) to imagine not having the time ch

by Wistar 2y ago

Hmm. Well, I for one, my spouse for another, LOVE the time shifts—especially the one in the springtime. It is hard for me (us) to imagine not having the time change to DST every year. If the time change is discarded, I certainly hope it is for daylight and not standard time.

billev2k 2y ago
By all means, get up early if that fits your internal clock! But please, let's keep the clocks as close to the sun (ie, clock noon at solar noon) as practical.
- Wistar 2y ago
  Standard time in the summer would mean sunrise at about 4AM here in the Seattle area. That'd be fairly disturbing to sleep.
  - anxoo 2y ago
    it is not written in the constitution, the bible, or the laws of physics that people have to wake at the time called 6am and have to leave work at a time called 5pm. people can choose to do activites at the time and level of daylight they choose. societies and groups can decide to change their schedules as the seasons change, as they see fit, without the government mandating that our clocks change, which is confusing as hell
    - lmz 2y ago
      But it is written in tons of contracts and maybe the gov redefining "5pm" is better than rewriting all these contracts.
  - jandrewrogers 2y ago
    That happens regardless in summer in Seattle, the sun rises very early. The sun also sets very late in summer to the point of being obnoxious and disturbing to sleep. Why does this not matter? No amount of fiddling with the clock changes the reality of how much sunlight there is. Lifestyle preferences around sunlight should not dictate the clock.
gboss 2y ago
I also prefer the time change system we have. I recognize there are obvious draw backs, but echoing a sibling comment about London. I’m confident if we stopped changing clocks annually, we’d resume the practice in a few years. It is just better to have more afternoon sun in the summer it makes being active with friends and family much easier. If we didn’t change to standard time in the winter, kids would be going to school in pitch black night in most of the country.
- jedberg 2y ago
  > If we didn’t change to standard time in the winter, kids would be going to school in pitch black night in most of the country. Or, crazy idea I know, but what if we just shifted the school start time by an hour instead??
  - cmrdporcupine 2y ago
    not a bad idea but every time this idea is floated people freak out because it would make them later for work, etc. etc. etc.
    - jedberg 2y ago
      The assumption would be that work starts an hour later at the same time school shifts.
      - mungoman2 2y ago
        Well if you accept collectively shift all times by an hour, you're effectively arguing for the system we have.
adamtaylor_13 2y ago
You’re the only person I’ve ever heard express this opinion… ever. Fascinating.
- jes5199 2y ago
  the further north a person lives, the more likely they are to think the time change is helpful

by Wistar 2y ago

billev2k 2y ago

By all means, get up early if that fits your internal clock! But please, let's keep the clocks as close to the sun (ie, clock noon at solar noon) as practical.

Wistar 2y ago
Standard time in the summer would mean sunrise at about 4AM here in the Seattle area. That'd be fairly disturbing to sleep.
- anxoo 2y ago
  it is not written in the constitution, the bible, or the laws of physics that people have to wake at the time called 6am and have to leave work at a time called 5pm. people can choose to do activites at the time and level of daylight they choose. societies and groups can decide to change their schedules as the seasons change, as they see fit, without the government mandating that our clocks change, which is confusing as hell
  - lmz 2y ago
    But it is written in tons of contracts and maybe the gov redefining "5pm" is better than rewriting all these contracts.
- jandrewrogers 2y ago
  That happens regardless in summer in Seattle, the sun rises very early. The sun also sets very late in summer to the point of being obnoxious and disturbing to sleep. Why does this not matter? No amount of fiddling with the clock changes the reality of how much sunlight there is. Lifestyle preferences around sunlight should not dictate the clock.

gboss 2y ago

I also prefer the time change system we have. I recognize there are obvious draw backs, but echoing a sibling comment about London. I’m confident if we stopped changing clocks annually, we’d resume the practice in a few years. It is just better to have more afternoon sun in the summer it makes being active with friends and family much easier. If we didn’t change to standard time in the winter, kids would be going to school in pitch black night in most of the country.

jedberg 2y ago
> If we didn’t change to standard time in the winter, kids would be going to school in pitch black night in most of the country. Or, crazy idea I know, but what if we just shifted the school start time by an hour instead??
- cmrdporcupine 2y ago
  not a bad idea but every time this idea is floated people freak out because it would make them later for work, etc. etc. etc.
  - jedberg 2y ago
    The assumption would be that work starts an hour later at the same time school shifts.
    - mungoman2 2y ago
      Well if you accept collectively shift all times by an hour, you're effectively arguing for the system we have.

adamtaylor_13 2y ago

You’re the only person I’ve ever heard express this opinion… ever. Fascinating.

jes5199 2y ago
the further north a person lives, the more likely they are to think the time change is helpful