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I’m convinced the people who think there is an AI bubble are simply not using it. It is increasing my ability and productivity beyond belief and I see incredib

I’m convinced the people who think there is an AI bubble are simply not using it. It is increasing my ability and productivity beyond belief and I see incredible potential. The author mentions they don’t think it is a bubble necessarily but that we will have lots of GPUs, however I seriously doubt anything other than more AI will be the result of lots of GPUs.

ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago
I tried using it every once in a while and it still feels like a massive bubble. It can get basic front-end react apps done but nothing beyond that. But since front-end programming wasn't ever really programming, I don't mind that and I sometimes use it for that. For everything else, it just makes a massive mess. It's good to ask it questions about pretty common topics and get a cleaner reply than searching stuff yourself on Google and going through spam articles. But any sort of insight or any sort of new learning, it just simply doesn't have it. Furthermore, all of the hyping of research assistants for $20,000 and all of that is just absolute bullshit. And no, there is no AGI coming.
- card_zero 2y ago
  Hey, AI has every chance of attaining parity with human intelligence, if it succeeds in making humans stupid enough.
spwa4 2y ago
> It is increasing my ability and productivity beyond belief and I see incredible potential. How?
- cake-rusk 2y ago
  IMO this only applies to people who are already an expert in the domains they are using AI for. Only they can guide the AI to produce something useful. In all other cases it's the blind leading the blind.
pedalpete 2y ago
It may be non-obvious, but bubble doesn't mean that there isn't potential or that there isn't value - which is basically what the point of this post is. It's that the amount of investment outpaces the current value of return. Think about the internet. Everyone rushed in and billions was spent. But we never stopped getting utility from the internet. In fact utility likely increased during the bust, which is why there was a 2nd boom in 2003, which may have continued had the GFC not occurred.
- card_zero 2y ago
  Or tulips, even after the tulip mania of the 1630s tulips are still worth something. Perhaps that's not a fair comparison, though, since they're very pretty flowers and AI is only AI.
  - pedalpete 2y ago
    I know (or think) you're being facetious, but the tulip market never reclaimed it's former heights. Not yet at least...after NFTs, maybe that's next!
    - hackable_sand 2y ago
      3.0lip
elorant 2y ago
I do too, but I still believe there is a bubble. Reason is that I can do most of my work with self-hosted models so there’s little need to pay for a subscription. Sure, I’m a minority for now because I’m tech savvy, but with that in mind it’s hard to justify the valuations of most AI companies. We don’t know if they’re keep accumulating users and most LLMs seem to have hit a plateau of performance.
- derekp7 2y ago
  And local models are getting more accurate and efficient. And they really don't need a dedicated GPU for fast response, just really fast ram. New APUs such as the AMD 395 are going to be game changers for local users with 256 GiB/s bandwidth.
  - elorant 2y ago
    The new Mac Studio is great for this job too. With the Max chip you get 128GBs of unified RAM for $3.5k. Memory bandwidth is at 546GB/s which is good enough for most tasks.
- dorisbella 2y ago
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rvz 2y ago
> I’m convinced the people who think there is an AI bubble are simply not using it. I have used it and it IS a bubble. Why? There are lots of free AI models that one can run on a Macbook, and even hosted AI models are racing themselves to $0. There will be a crash and this so-called "AGI" will takeaway more jobs than it creates. [0] It's no secret that in 2030, it will become a reality as we already have accelerated layoffs and it isn't going to stop. It appears in this hype cycle, it is the year 1999. [0] https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-report-2025/digest/ https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-repo...

ilrwbwrkhv 2y ago

I tried using it every once in a while and it still feels like a massive bubble. It can get basic front-end react apps done but nothing beyond that. But since front-end programming wasn't ever really programming, I don't mind that and I sometimes use it for that. For everything else, it just makes a massive mess. It's good to ask it questions about pretty common topics and get a cleaner reply than searching stuff yourself on Google and going through spam articles. But any sort of insight or any sort of new learning, it just simply doesn't have it. Furthermore, all of the hyping of research assistants for $20,000 and all of that is just absolute bullshit. And no, there is no AGI coming.

card_zero 2y ago
Hey, AI has every chance of attaining parity with human intelligence, if it succeeds in making humans stupid enough.

spwa4 2y ago

> It is increasing my ability and productivity beyond belief and I see incredible potential. How?

cake-rusk 2y ago
IMO this only applies to people who are already an expert in the domains they are using AI for. Only they can guide the AI to produce something useful. In all other cases it's the blind leading the blind.

pedalpete 2y ago

It may be non-obvious, but bubble doesn't mean that there isn't potential or that there isn't value - which is basically what the point of this post is. It's that the amount of investment outpaces the current value of return. Think about the internet. Everyone rushed in and billions was spent. But we never stopped getting utility from the internet. In fact utility likely increased during the bust, which is why there was a 2nd boom in 2003, which may have continued had the GFC not occurred.

card_zero 2y ago
Or tulips, even after the tulip mania of the 1630s tulips are still worth something. Perhaps that's not a fair comparison, though, since they're very pretty flowers and AI is only AI.
- pedalpete 2y ago
  I know (or think) you're being facetious, but the tulip market never reclaimed it's former heights. Not yet at least...after NFTs, maybe that's next!
  - hackable_sand 2y ago
    3.0lip

elorant 2y ago

I do too, but I still believe there is a bubble. Reason is that I can do most of my work with self-hosted models so there’s little need to pay for a subscription. Sure, I’m a minority for now because I’m tech savvy, but with that in mind it’s hard to justify the valuations of most AI companies. We don’t know if they’re keep accumulating users and most LLMs seem to have hit a plateau of performance.

derekp7 2y ago
And local models are getting more accurate and efficient. And they really don't need a dedicated GPU for fast response, just really fast ram. New APUs such as the AMD 395 are going to be game changers for local users with 256 GiB/s bandwidth.
- elorant 2y ago
  The new Mac Studio is great for this job too. With the Max chip you get 128GBs of unified RAM for $3.5k. Memory bandwidth is at 546GB/s which is good enough for most tasks.
dorisbella 2y ago
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rvz 2y ago

> I’m convinced the people who think there is an AI bubble are simply not using it. I have used it and it IS a bubble. Why? There are lots of free AI models that one can run on a Macbook, and even hosted AI models are racing themselves to $0. There will be a crash and this so-called "AGI" will takeaway more jobs than it creates. [0] It's no secret that in 2030, it will become a reality as we already have accelerated layoffs and it isn't going to stop. It appears in this hype cycle, it is the year 1999. [0] https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-report-2025/digest/ https://www.weforum.org/publications/the-future-of-jobs-repo...