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In reading the actual judgement that's not the case: https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/McDougal-Opinion.pdf https://www.courthousenews.

In reading the actual judgement that's not the case: https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/McDougal-Opinion.pdf https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Mc... Tucker Carlson is specifically cited as maintaining that he spoke the truth on page 5. Rather it's Fox News that argues that Tucker Carlson was stating an opinion with hyperbole for effect: "Fox News first argues that, viewed in context, Mr. Carlson cannot be understood to have been stating facts, but instead that he was delivering an opinion using hyperbole for effect... This “general tenor” of the show should then inform a viewer that he is not “stating actual facts” about the topics he discusses and is instead engaging in “exaggeration” and “non-literal commentary.”" At any rate, the case is a lot more complex than just one guy claiming no one believes anything he says. Using it to justify the possibility that the interview by Tucker Carlson was not with the actual Sam Bankman-Fried by with a potential imposter or AI is absolute bonkers.

scottiescottie 2y ago
you actually read the case instead of parroting a talking point? witch
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  Help me out here. What part of "Fox News first argues that, viewed in context, Mr. Carlson cannot be understood to have been stating facts, but instead that he was delivering an opinion using hyperbole for effect" is a "talking point?" What was Carlson actually stating, and what was the context? Obviously some people took it seriously, or it wouldn't have ended up in court.
  - wakawaka28 2y ago
    > Obviously some people took it seriously, or it wouldn't have ended up in court. Wait, you actually think he was sued by people who took his statements seriously (aka fans)? The people taking it seriously were likely misconstruing rhetoric in a literal sense. This happens quite a bit. Sometimes the rhetoric is out of line, sometimes not. One could argue that his meaning is clearly understood by fans, like a big inside joke, and that the ridiculous claims are just another form of entertainment. That said, if you watch Tucker now you'll see that he's much more serious than when he was on Fox News. I don't think applying the results from that case in any way to his independent journalism makes sense.
    - CamperBob2 2y ago
      That said, if you watch Tucker now I'll take your word for it, how's that.
      - wakawaka28 2y ago
        You're missing out. He gets some VERY interesting interviews and asks the hard questions. I think he went kinda easy on SBF but that is probably because he didn't want to have SBF cut the interview short.

scottiescottie 2y ago

you actually read the case instead of parroting a talking point? witch

CamperBob2 2y ago
Help me out here. What part of "Fox News first argues that, viewed in context, Mr. Carlson cannot be understood to have been stating facts, but instead that he was delivering an opinion using hyperbole for effect" is a "talking point?" What was Carlson actually stating, and what was the context? Obviously some people took it seriously, or it wouldn't have ended up in court.
- wakawaka28 2y ago
  > Obviously some people took it seriously, or it wouldn't have ended up in court. Wait, you actually think he was sued by people who took his statements seriously (aka fans)? The people taking it seriously were likely misconstruing rhetoric in a literal sense. This happens quite a bit. Sometimes the rhetoric is out of line, sometimes not. One could argue that his meaning is clearly understood by fans, like a big inside joke, and that the ridiculous claims are just another form of entertainment. That said, if you watch Tucker now you'll see that he's much more serious than when he was on Fox News. I don't think applying the results from that case in any way to his independent journalism makes sense.
  - CamperBob2 2y ago
    That said, if you watch Tucker now I'll take your word for it, how's that.
    - wakawaka28 2y ago
      You're missing out. He gets some VERY interesting interviews and asks the hard questions. I think he went kinda easy on SBF but that is probably because he didn't want to have SBF cut the interview short.