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Using state violence to protect property is literally one of the main reasons for having a state at all.
by ameister14 2y ago
Using state violence to protect property is literally one of the main reasons for having a state at all.
- timewizard 2y agoTo protect real property. Violations of copyright should be strictly civil issues. Why are the people who arrest murderers and vandals involved in this?
- floydnoel 2y agothey don’t really worry about murderers nor vandals
- jebarker 2y agoI honestly don't see why the cops should arrest someone that burgles an office building (say of a film producer) and not someone that gives away the content they paid to make for free. In what way is it different?
- timewizard 2y agoIf I take your property you cannot have it or use it. If I copy your content you still have it. It's not an exigent issue that requires officers with guns to solve.
- jebarker 2y agoAh, yes, that's a good argument for property definition. I agree that it seems excessive to use armed force to enforce this, I was more questioning how to differentiate the two situations in law so cops don't have to exercise that judgement.
- aydyn 2y agoIntellectual property is not property, its a misnomer. A bluray disk is property. Do you own it or no?
- ameister14 2y agoHe stole those too
- LeoPanthera 2y agoHe was stealing the discs. Those are actual property.
- aydyn 2y agoI am disputing the point about intellectual property.
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- gruez 2y ago>Intellectual property is not property Look up the definition of "property". You'll find that it says nothing about it needing to be tangible. It literally just means "something that can be owned".
- kelseyfrog 2y agoFalse. It's to protect citizens first and personal property second. Private property is invalid and a legal construction and assumes the personhood of corporations. It's this false equivalency that gives these orgs power over us. Our legal system should prioritize actual people. Anything else is morally bankrupt. A lot of people get mad because hearing the truth hurts.
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- tzs 2y ago> Private property is invalid and a legal construction and assumes the personhood of corporations Interesting claim considering that private property predates corporations by centuries.
- kelseyfrog 2y agoI simply don't care. If private property was a natural right we wouldn't need it artificially supported by governments.
- lostmsu 2y agoLike citizen rights?
- kelseyfrog 2y agoNo. Like intellectual property rights. I don't do gotchas. I have no obligation to be held to someone else's idea of consistency.