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Yeah but you wouldn't get access to active research projects, equipment (including lab equipment and super-computers), and various other programs. The point of

Yeah but you wouldn't get access to active research projects, equipment (including lab equipment and super-computers), and various other programs. The point of universities has always been network effects, not the quality of pedagogy of individual professors. Universities also usually have free tutoring centers. So, for the cost of tuition, you get access to (often more than) 8 hours of tutoring a week in addition to all the other stuff. Also 8 hours a week would be an absurdly low courseload.

rahimnathwani 2y ago
Also 8 hours a week would be an absurdly low courseload. I'm not talking about 8 hours per week of studying. I'm talking about 8 hours per week of 1:1 tutoring. Those 8 hours would be used to improve the effectiveness of the other 32 to 40 hours the student spends studying. At Oxford, undergraduates in humanities and social sciences get 2 hours per week of lectures, and 2 hours per week of 1:1 or 2:1 tutorials. That's half the 8 hours I'm suggesting (and even less when you consider that Oxford has only 24 weeks of term per year). Do you think those students are taking an 'absurdly low courseload'? So, for the cost of tuition, you get access to (often more than) 8 hours of tutoring a week in addition to all the other stuff. At which US university does every student get an average of 8 hours per week of 1:1 tutoring?
- Cpoll 2y ago
  > At Oxford, undergraduates in humanities and social sciences get 2 hours per week of lectures Per course, right?
  - rahimnathwani 2y ago
    No. 1 hour lecture and 1 hour tutorial per week per course. 2 courses simultaneously so total 2 hour lecture and 2 hour tutorial. Most of the time is spent reading. Some of the time is spent writing. 2 hours per week are spent in tutorials discussing what you've read and written.
blackeyeblitzar 2y ago
Those facilities are incredibly overrated. Most universities have outdated labs not state of the art stuff. And certainly they aren’t in line with the cost. Berkeley doesn’t even have supercomputers.

rahimnathwani 2y ago

Also 8 hours a week would be an absurdly low courseload. I'm not talking about 8 hours per week of studying. I'm talking about 8 hours per week of 1:1 tutoring. Those 8 hours would be used to improve the effectiveness of the other 32 to 40 hours the student spends studying. At Oxford, undergraduates in humanities and social sciences get 2 hours per week of lectures, and 2 hours per week of 1:1 or 2:1 tutorials. That's half the 8 hours I'm suggesting (and even less when you consider that Oxford has only 24 weeks of term per year). Do you think those students are taking an 'absurdly low courseload'? So, for the cost of tuition, you get access to (often more than) 8 hours of tutoring a week in addition to all the other stuff. At which US university does every student get an average of 8 hours per week of 1:1 tutoring?

Cpoll 2y ago
> At Oxford, undergraduates in humanities and social sciences get 2 hours per week of lectures Per course, right?
- rahimnathwani 2y ago
  No. 1 hour lecture and 1 hour tutorial per week per course. 2 courses simultaneously so total 2 hour lecture and 2 hour tutorial. Most of the time is spent reading. Some of the time is spent writing. 2 hours per week are spent in tutorials discussing what you've read and written.

blackeyeblitzar 2y ago

Those facilities are incredibly overrated. Most universities have outdated labs not state of the art stuff. And certainly they aren’t in line with the cost. Berkeley doesn’t even have supercomputers.