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"may degrade an already precarious online environment" Not may, will. Furthermore, I will never wrap my head around why people would use AI for a use-case lik

"may degrade an already precarious online environment" Not may, will. Furthermore, I will never wrap my head around why people would use AI for a use-case like this. It entirely defeats the purpose of interacting with people. If you are awkward, with enough time you will either find someone who is also awkward, or someone who doesn't care/finds it endearing. Having a bot generate dialog for you is a weird step backward.

01-_- 2y ago
I agree
swatcoder 2y ago
You're completely right. But people on dating apps are all of: frustrated, desperate, bored, exhausted, insecure, and frivolous, etc For many (of all genders), any opportunity to distance themselves from those feelings while still imagining some kind of success is going to be enticing.
asah 2y ago
I believe the argument is that tools/bots can help a person's self confidence. This argument breaks down when the other side is using a bot to respond, which of course they are.
pinko 2y ago
> I will never wrap my head around why people would use AI for a use-case like this If your sociopathic goal is solely to trick someone into an in-person date at which they might be too socially insecure (or too desperate for companionship) to decline sex, then it's a win for the person faking themselves. This is definitely a sign that online dating apps as a whole are circling the drain, though.
lazide 2y ago
Dating apps were never legitimate interaction anyway.
awongh 2y ago
The bot is just a symptom of the weird social dynamics at play inside a dating app, where in a heterosexual environment, the women recieve an unmanageable number of messages and the men need to send/respond to an unmanageable number of messages in order for both parties to agree to meet up in real life. Everyone agrees that most of the point of a dating app should be to figure out if real-life interaction is pleasant and agreeable, but for lots of reasons it's difficult to get to that point.
cardanome 2y ago
The way people select a mate on dating apps is very different than how people judge potential mates when meeting them in real life. Someone could be bad at texting and writing profiles but actually charming and a good fit to you when given the chance to have an actual date. The idea so use a tool that helps you over the initial hurdle so you get a chance in the first place isn't that far fetched. Also speaking personally, I dislike texting and find dating apps a huge time waster, so automating the process sounds like a good idea. I am not sure AI is the solution but the problem is real.
- kelseyfrog 2y ago
  Dating apps commodify meeting people. Any time something is commodified, it undergoes a distortion, first to meet the demands of being a commodity, and then to meet the demands of the market in which it's disseminated. AI, if easier and worse, has the potential to accelerate the decline of online dating - already a hellscape - into something so terrible it is easier to avoid. AIAcc is a legitimate stance in the face of this.
  - Dracophoenix 2y ago
    > Dating apps commodify meeting people. Romantic relationship are commodified and transactional in nature. Brideprices and dowries preceded the dating app by millennia. In China, it's not uncommon to see literal marriage markets where parents sell their child's resumes to other parents as though their children were cars or cattle.
    - kelseyfrog 2y ago
      I don't engage with people that way and I would encourage others not to either. It debases the human experience. To describe the world as such says more about one's perspective than the world as it is.
- JetSpiegel 2y ago
  > Someone could be bad at texting and writing profiles but actually charming and a good fit to you when given the chance to have an actual date. As documented in Cyrano, hundreds of years ago.
mrshadowgoose 2y ago
Depends on one's goals. If simply hooking up is the objective, although it's disingenuous/dishonest, this would improve one's odds.

01-_- 2y ago

I agree

swatcoder 2y ago

You're completely right. But people on dating apps are all of: frustrated, desperate, bored, exhausted, insecure, and frivolous, etc For many (of all genders), any opportunity to distance themselves from those feelings while still imagining some kind of success is going to be enticing.

asah 2y ago

I believe the argument is that tools/bots can help a person's self confidence. This argument breaks down when the other side is using a bot to respond, which of course they are.

pinko 2y ago

> I will never wrap my head around why people would use AI for a use-case like this If your sociopathic goal is solely to trick someone into an in-person date at which they might be too socially insecure (or too desperate for companionship) to decline sex, then it's a win for the person faking themselves. This is definitely a sign that online dating apps as a whole are circling the drain, though.

lazide 2y ago

Dating apps were never legitimate interaction anyway.

awongh 2y ago

The bot is just a symptom of the weird social dynamics at play inside a dating app, where in a heterosexual environment, the women recieve an unmanageable number of messages and the men need to send/respond to an unmanageable number of messages in order for both parties to agree to meet up in real life. Everyone agrees that most of the point of a dating app should be to figure out if real-life interaction is pleasant and agreeable, but for lots of reasons it's difficult to get to that point.

cardanome 2y ago

The way people select a mate on dating apps is very different than how people judge potential mates when meeting them in real life. Someone could be bad at texting and writing profiles but actually charming and a good fit to you when given the chance to have an actual date. The idea so use a tool that helps you over the initial hurdle so you get a chance in the first place isn't that far fetched. Also speaking personally, I dislike texting and find dating apps a huge time waster, so automating the process sounds like a good idea. I am not sure AI is the solution but the problem is real.

kelseyfrog 2y ago
Dating apps commodify meeting people. Any time something is commodified, it undergoes a distortion, first to meet the demands of being a commodity, and then to meet the demands of the market in which it's disseminated. AI, if easier and worse, has the potential to accelerate the decline of online dating - already a hellscape - into something so terrible it is easier to avoid. AIAcc is a legitimate stance in the face of this.
- Dracophoenix 2y ago
  > Dating apps commodify meeting people. Romantic relationship are commodified and transactional in nature. Brideprices and dowries preceded the dating app by millennia. In China, it's not uncommon to see literal marriage markets where parents sell their child's resumes to other parents as though their children were cars or cattle.
  - kelseyfrog 2y ago
    I don't engage with people that way and I would encourage others not to either. It debases the human experience. To describe the world as such says more about one's perspective than the world as it is.
JetSpiegel 2y ago
> Someone could be bad at texting and writing profiles but actually charming and a good fit to you when given the chance to have an actual date. As documented in Cyrano, hundreds of years ago.

mrshadowgoose 2y ago

Depends on one's goals. If simply hooking up is the objective, although it's disingenuous/dishonest, this would improve one's odds.